Shaman continue to be an utter boring disappointment when it comes to class fantasy and wow factor

I agree. Totems are a great way to give shamans flavor that sets them apart. I don’t like the utility only crap or cd only totems

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Totemic is great for resto, kind of a dumpster fire for enhance.

Stormbringer is very simple, but other than a lackluster visual on tempest, I think it feels great to play as enhance.

I haven’t tried ele yet. But for resto Farseer is okay. I like the ancestral theme but I think it needs a lot longer time in the oven to cook. Some classes had three whole months of feedback and iteration for their hero talents. Shaman had basically just the beta.

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Totemic is doing ok in TWW at the current state. It is on par with other classes in damage and is manageable to play in world content and M+. We will see next week how it does in raids.

Though button bloat is a bit, with some keybinds and other macros, it is doable. The issue with Totemic, it indeed does make you look at Shaman differently from its past setups, and the rotation and setups are not what Shaman players are used to. With that, if you master the rotation, and learn how to setup burst windows, Totemic is challenging and enjoyable. With the patch yesterday, seering totem does have more impact now, and using an Elementalist spec is more effective.

I am looking forward to our guild raid next week, I am interested to know how the spec will line up with others in the raid environment.

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I am disappointed as well.

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Idk, im having a blast aoeing everything to death, specially chain pulling in delves and seeing if I can survive by trying to aoe it all.

Just gotta find what you like with it.

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Enh is so much fun in PVE. I love where it’s at right now.

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I feel like they brought totem utility back a bit with resto and there is a totem spec for enhance currently (although I’ve heard it’s pretty complicated and doesn’t perform as well). It does seem odd as a shaman to not really care about totems though. I’ll agree with that logic. However as enhance currently sits, as fun as I find it, I can’t imagine adding in even one more button. It’s already giving me carpal tunnel lol

Gameplay > flavor, totems that were tied to your dps were absolutely awful to use and made shaman actively worse.

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Elementalist stormbringer absolutely pumps. It is super engaging and I’m having way more fun on it than I originally was during beta.

I could probably play it more effectively and Im still usually the top dps. If you aren’t having fun as enhancement currently, I don’t think the spec is for you.

I can’t speak on ele at all. Im enjoying enhancement too much to try resto out, but it was good on beta.

This is all from an pve pov.

So are shields, potions, even the spells you cast. It isn’t anything to hit one more button. But it does a lot for class identity to have something unique like totems.

Don’t know. I feel super cool when I am on my goblin shaman, in his plunderlord gear, being surrounded by lightning, earth, my totems and my Elemental with my Ancestors. We are wrecking everything in sight!

I feel one with the elements and the spirits and in my Plunderlord outfit, I feel like a G.

At first i was like i dunno some of the stuff is okay but then i read

and i was like, oh frick actually most of the things i have i’d rather replace with this lol - wind fury is iconic and awesome af and i’d love to see more build around with the hero trees, so true. actually there is a lot of truth in this post

only thing is, i love totems so i love seeing totem stuff and totem buffs, just wish enhance and ele had more totems. earth ele could easily be earth ele totem again and have some of the totem buffs applied to it

farseer is a huge missed op on hero specs, i dont understand why the ancestors (lame) arent just totems (awesome, massive class fantasy) and it renamed to totemic and then old totemic is turned into something cooler. this would also fix ele/enh not having the totems they deserve cause they could just get the totems from the totem (ancestor) summons and then the totem buffs would apply to those…

also this x1000

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Dude put down the coffee and consolidate your thoughts a little. Essay after essay just to say you are a dk main not a shaman main

Those arent things you are constantly having to hit though, having to baby sit a wider version of a utility buff is awful gameplay

Mage hero talents are terrible lol, did you mean warlock by chance?

I only wish that Tempest replaced both LB and CL. That would make the rotations much smoother.

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100%…The amount of times I’ve cracked off a CL because in my head it was the next spell needed because I’m not tracking my awakening storm stacks and the 3rd one procs the millisecond before I cast CL causing me to delay tempest is too high to count.

On the upside, I’m never going to be pushing world first content so at the end of the day, delaying a few tempest by a couple seconds isn’t the end of the world. But yeah, having it replace both spells would be a huge QoL change.

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To you it is. Again it’s just another ability. But one that is different than other classes. Spamming Lightning Bolt could be considered bad gameplay. You could literally say that about anything.