Shaman Ascendence form is Out of touch with Class fantasy

Undead Shaman confirmed? :grin:

Ascendance isn’t really part of my fantasy anyway, but are these optional? can you choose which form you want?

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It’s out of touch with good looking design lol

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So far the anwser is probably not. We’d have to be druids for that kind of treatment. I feel if we were going to be able to choose our form they would have at least given us different examples or at mentioned they can be customized.

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They should of just let us Fly mid air and cast thing with the element rotating around us a la Aang avatar mode

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You may spawn Firecrotch.

It will be like the Baldur’s Gate 3 great reveal during avatar creation, when we were all like wtf.

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I appreciate the effort but this is horrendous, please give me the option to opt out.

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My issue isn’t the Avatar Form, it’s that, at least in the case of elemental shaman, it’s become a significant talent point tradeoff for an ability on a 3 minute cooldown, that even with the shorter CD, is kinda lackluster.

For Stormbringer, you definitely have better options, like ramping up the left side of your tree to have Earthquake do 130% plus more damage after Earthshock (and having mastery apply to earth shock) and that synergy is passive with unlimited uptime and no complex mechanics or rotation.

After messing around, I realized that once you forgoe Flame Ascendant, you lose a portion of your Lava Burst’s cleave, and it makes you question why you should take primordial wave and liquid magma totem, if you’re not building around cleaving with Lava Burst. Further, it makes you question using Lava Burst at all, outside of instant cast procs.

If you run Farseer, it’s certainly worthwhile, to continue Flame Ascendant, PWave, and Liquid Magma Totem as means to spread flame shock and cleave Lava Burst.

But, I think Stormbringer is more user friendly, and apparently greater dps. And, it let’s you forgoe these mechanics in favor of simply spamming CL, and casting Earthquakes at 130% more damage following Earthshock.

Two Questions for you seasoned veterans.

  1. If someone takes the Flame Ascendant talent that gives a 7% chance to turn into Flame Ascendant, will that proc trigger Lava Burst on all targets with flame shock?

  2. If you forgoe Flame Ascendant, then the only way you’re getting cleave damage from Lava Burst is to Liquid Magma Totem, Primordial Wave, then Lava Burst, correct? Is there any other way to apply Flame Shock to multiple targets without manually casting it?

If 2 is true, than as Stormbringer, wouldn’t you be better off foregoing P-Wave and Liquid Magma Totem, and instead buff Earthshock and Earthquake (to do 130% more damage after applying Earthshock) on the left side of the Elemental tree, and spamming Chain Lighting as much as possible?

:rofl: ye got me good!

Know one needs to know where my true power lies.

I appreciate the update to the visual. I hope more will follow.

It does look like a bloody banshee more, but it’ll come out near or shortly after Halloween, and it’ll be a brand new graphical update.

Ascendances’ origin with the Twilight Hammer was the perversion of elemental spirit more so than the acceptance elemental power. It erupts, basically corrupts the being daring to take that primordial power.

Yes, which makes zero sense for us as shaman players to be using that method of empowerment.

I think the elemental crack smoker ascendance form fits perfectly. In order to play enhancement in the current meta you have to be smoking crack, fits perfectly imo. (Enhance is dead)

For 2, pq+lvb Isnt dmg is the extra haste

I think its so dam good im leveling my shammy right now, if they just add the old glyph back for others it will be fine

On their own I think the new ascendance models look cool but I agree it’s not what I (and I think the vast majority of people) wanted. Why would a tauren or my short dwarf turn into a tall laughing fire clown it’s so odd. I strongly feel that Blizzard has continually not delivered on the shaman fantasy (at least how it existed in the Warcraft games and early expansions) over the years which is so disappointing as thematically it is my favourite class.

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so real for this

Admittedly, when I saw a picture of it I was like, “LOL. Fingers in the toaster!”

But after playing with it on PTR, I’m really digging it.

Don’t worry though, the same obnoxious people who got our lightning visuals scrapped in legion will continue to drone on and one about this and get it scrapped too.

For Zandalari shaman, the new forms are phenomenal. They really tie into the Aztec/Mayan/Incan vibe the Z-trolls have. For any other shaman though, it’s just completely wrong.

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The effort is appreciated but the execution is terrible. It is horribly slanted towards zandalari. If we’re sticking with this then I want some sort of wicker themed form for my beefy gal. Personally I’d love it if it were more like balance druid and their astral form. Change the color for each of our specs, add some lightning, wind, or rain to it and its already an improvement imo.

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Setting aside the fact that this isn’t what I expected, what really frustrates me is that as an Elemental Shaman, I’d like to use the air element more. I hope, as they say, that I’ll be able to choose it at the barber and modify certain aspects.

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especially with Stormbringer Elemental spec

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