Shadowlands PVP is Trash

Except I’m not a troll.

Why do you think so many of the PVP community flocked to classic, and more than doubled subs?

They don’t want the snorefest. They want fast classic like PVP, like every other game. We have that in Retail now, and its great.

The success of classic, and more so of Classic PVP and it returning back PVP players, woke the dev team up.

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I wouldn’t necessarily say people are happy with the oneshot meta, but rather people are happy to not have the extreme dampening fest that BFA was.

Realistically, I think the oneshot would be more palettable if it wasn’t associated with Deathmatch pvp, such as arena exists now, but more in a score-based arena kind of like FFXIV has–where someone dies and they ress to come back into the fight with their cds. A form of PVP which, ironically, does have an established role for tanks as well that doesn’t present a huge cluster for balance

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And how many times have things changed after they said something like that?

It’s not a majority that like it, I disagree with you on that count. Go count how many leaving threads there are compared to I just joined and love it.

Perhaps in your youth you are lacking experience…it’ll change.

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One shots happen with fast play.

As long as its not a consistent 1 shot its fine.

We have different circles we run in. I am in multiple 10k+ user discord, where wow was always shamed, that are now a buzz about how great SL is.

The people complaining do want BFA games, they just don’t want to admit it.

No lol.

Perhaps in your old age, you should have learned the upset are more prone to voice that than the happy.

Not many will take the time to come and say they like it. They are busy playing, and don’t see the need.

The ones that don’t like it, will make sure everyone knows it.

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Just bookmark the post kid and come back and say “You were right old man”

I got time, I’ll wait

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Yep, thats what everyone said when the PVP slowed down.

Ion doesn’t care what you want, and we made it clear for years we didn’t want what you do.

Its going to take years to change again.

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Just ignore him.

Look at this ret https: //imgur. com/a/Hx0rQdJ

THIS IS NOT FUN! One stun, and I died, less than 2 seconds, I just did not exist anymore, couldn’t react, couldn’t evade. Rode up on me and splat. Again, NOT FUN.

Edit: the post didn’t show it, but there was a 7.3k final reckoning crit also. Super fair that DPS can crit like this all day long, but my heal’s never do.

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This is why you have a trinket.

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It’s all good, anyone that has been playing this game long enough knows it will change.

I know it’s frustrating. Instead of small changes along the way they are taking the baseball bat approach. We all saw the levels rogues got hit with…ya don’t think that’s going to not happen again to others…keep dreaming!

We are also not even to the bottom tiers / access to all of the soul binds yet. Add to that gear stat increases and things may look a bit different in a couple weeks

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This kind of response is just dumb. You can literally only act with the information you have. He can post on his slands main then, but until then, I would also assume ret/pala.

You would assume that someone quitting WoW right now is a Ret paladin?

Is Ret really that bad right now that Ret mains are quitting over the game’s pvp being trash?

Lol

I form my opinions based on the information I have, otherwise it’s just 100% blind speculation.

Based in the fact that he is playing Paladin on classic, there is a higher chance that he is playing Paladin on live over anything else.

I have no issue if he wants to clarify.

Fixed that for ya.

Think logically here, if the current state of Shadowlands PVP is what causes him to quit? Then it is most likely that they play a spec that could either W-Key or Dampen his way to victory but can no longer do that.

Realistically, he is probably a DH, Assassination Rogue, or a Destro lock.

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I’m actually a Ret Paladin. Nonetheless, PVP is joke.

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but there are like 200 more warriors in the top 1k

Well I stand corrected.

Unserstandable, have a great day.

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Shadow frost Unholy was the issue in S5.

Also prepatch 3.0 Ret was disgusting. Could sit there and have 2 Ret Paladins solo entire teams, Divine Storm cleaving teams down. It was nuts. This is nothing like that lol.

ur cooked if u think classic pvp is competitive at all

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You fixed it to fit your rhetoric, and nothing more.

And would you look at that.

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