Shadowlands launch cinematics (spoilers)

There is nothing dumb about the death of Billy the Racoon. That trash panda was evil incarnate. :slight_smile:

What is so terrible about making guesses and leaving some thought for speculation?

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You guys do realize the majority of the playerbase doesn’t scan WoWhead for expac story beats right?

This isn’t for us.

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I mean besides the fact that you’ll inevitably be disappointed because you care way more than the people making this game, I wasn’t so much criticizing the act of speculation, more that I was chuckling at how all these plausible scenarios are still bad stories. It’s not your fault, it’s just that there’s basically nothing coherent for you to work with.

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My current short list given we know Mueh’zala was the one who brought Helya to the Jailer directly, and we know Ursoc was one of the last to enter the Shadowlands with a functioning Arbiter that we know about::

  • Xavius, as he is a Night Elf turned Demon turned Old God servant
  • Gul’dan, as in the moment before he died his portal turned into something that heavily resembles the Maw
  • Kil’jaeden, maybe when Velen touched his forehead it gave his soul mortality once more
  • Argus, the one I doubt the most given they’ve implied Titans go to the “Plane of Order” when they die
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That being said, “the arbiter breaking will be explained in an intro cinematic” ION THAT WASN’T AN EXPLANATION THAT WAS A RED SOUL GOING INTO THE ARBITER

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The anduin stuff before you escape was kinda neat.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/813022038 9 hours 9 minutes into it

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If it even was a soul.

It also reminds me of “Sylvanas motives will be explained in bfa” and then they went and said “Sylvanas motives will be explained in shadowlands”.

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that much is safe I figure, as at this point everything was fine, so it was a soul of a dead person brought over by a Kyrian

Knowing blizzard it was a spaceship.

I am saying that with abit of sarcasm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLxylmYMEOs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6sowc4hY6I

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As an aside the in-engine cutscenes being able to match lip flaps to audio now is actually really impressive considering how ancient this game engine is.

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The Jailer dropping Baine is literally the scene from Toy Story where Andy drops Woody on the ground and says “I don’t want to play with you anymore” right down to the camera angle used.

That is all.

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https://youtu.be/9UKVXoEceaU?t=39

Is this human someone we know? Might be a hint.

Can I just say that their in-engine cutscenes are noticeably improved.

Frankensteining stock player animations together invited mockery, and for good reason. I wonder if this is just purpose-built key animation for use in this one scene, or if there’s an actual mechanism for lip sync now.

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As to what fried the Arbiter…

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/631252080195010570/780591345059495946/SPOILER_unknown.png

Perhaps the Dreadlords tampered with Argus (on Denathrius’s orders) so that he went where he was not supposed to go. The Arbiter was not created by the First Ones to process Titans, so she effectively crashed.

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Maybe it’s the latest thing they borrowed from FFXIV. Not that I’m complaining; I like having NPCs look at me, and lip flaps match dialogue, and the Palace of the Dead.

They can give the MSQ back though.

Another possibility is the souls that died when Azeroth was wounded.

I think the banshee like wail gives it away. Its likely Sylvanas when she jumped off Icecrown.