i think Chorus is not making the cut because again the main mechanic of the spec rotates around being in vodiform but rather than giving us an incentive to stay longer in it they decided to take or value from being out of it.
For Death Throes…I honestly don’t know i think it would be nice to have. Maybe they are going to make it into a legendary effect, they do tend to recycle traits.
Chorus and LI are conceptually terrible ideas as they exist now imo. Rewarding voidforms after their completion pushes more backloading and is a big cause of our problems in content outside of raids.
thank you that’s what I was trying to say.
the new alpha patch just hit and no changes to shadow other then an artifact trait that gives you and allies 10 haste.
it’s been a month and they haven’t addressed the spec. i think we gonna have another BFA so…gear up your alts to main them in shadowlands.
Shocking…
gasping for air
Combine holy and disc already… Shadow is so simple to fix, but I am sure they want that WOW factor with a complete rework, but my advice would be “you think you do but you dont…”. Just give what the community is wanting/expecting. Suggestions: Devouring plague, make shields worth the mana, stop taking passives out of our class and making them talents/pvp talents because they become mandatory picks to have basic class function, get rid of void form, make insanity a resource we build to increase our damage so we constantly work to keep up and not something we build up to blow our load on and repeat, bring back orbs, or don’t bring back any of the “STUPID” secondary resources, let us play, good reflective shields either for just disc or baseline because our defensive are a joke and melee are not punished for sitting on us in arena, inner fire is a armor/holy flame shield with charges that damage the attacker like lightning shield, mind sear spreads shadow word pain, have shadow word death get a proc chance off shadow word pain to 100% crit on next cast, dispersion heals 50% and has evasion chance of 50%, greater fade baseline (PLEASE), let vampiric touch heals us for % of damage, embrace will buff the previous suggestion to a higher % and everyone in raid/party will receive the healing, prayer of mends and renew for disc (seriously…), shadowfiend… its a 3 min cd…does it even do anything…i think i press that button because there is nothing left to press, touch of weakness could be another big defensive reading: if you are melee hit within the next 6 seconds you apply a undispellable debuff that reduces the afflicted players damage output by %, a ability to shadowstep to your own teammates/allies and call it shadow swap (this is the reverse leap of faith mechanic that was drop for some reason), spectral guise, give mind blast a chance to randomly stun (we are attacking their mind aka blackout but for mind blast), another defensive could be a blessed recovery that applies a strong HoT or make it weaker as a passive, clear casting chance on being damaged. I want to apologies for the grammer and chapter book. I am sure some troll will pick apart my grammer. I will try to clarify if someone doesn’t understand, but I am tired of typing. The point of this post is to show that there are options and directions to go in. I feel blizz doesn’t know were priest should be compared to other classes. I am so sick of being passed up because I chose to play what I am faithful to (no pun intended) and passionate about compared to someone who picked the flavor of the month. Honestly, if a blizzard employee is some how reading this post, just remove priest from the game if you are not going to do something with the class. End my suffering… This class probably has one of the most loyal followings besides rogue and possibly mail box dancers.
I feel your frustration right in my feelins…right in my feelins
1 month into the alpha and absolutely nothing for or about shadow (other then minor torghast anima powers being slightly adjusted number wise and they don’t even have anything to do with void form or insanity). I check every new weekly build and not a single one addresses shadow. Not even in Torghast (the highlight of the expansion)…honestly lowkey starting to think the shadow team is simply incompetent.
Your mistake is thinking there’s a shadow team. I feel like there may not be a shadow PERSON.
I believe there is one unpaid intern in charge of all class design.
They are also subject to an approval chain that takes 2 years and requires the input of all more senior designers, and each must approve the changes of all the other designers.
If I’m wrong, they can Blue post to correct me and tell me how it really is - otherwise I will judge solely based on the output: 2 bad changes every 2 years.
Late reply but that’s actually what I was trying to say. The 10x harder was in reference to the statement about unpredictable damage.
I’m not convinced there’s a Priest person at all. Based on BFA and the SL changes I don’t think any of the devs have logged time on a Priest of any spec in at least 3 years. They certainly don’t seem to have the faintest clue what makes each of our specs tick (or not) or what we need to shore up our glaring weaknesses.
I’m sad for shadow priest. Don’t play much of the other specs so can’t speak to them. This class is so lost in my opinion. I wasn’t a fan of the legion changes. BFA was ok but not much better. After reading the updates I am seeing in alpha I find myself preparing for the end of my shadow priest run. Been playing shadow since Burning Crusade. Pretty upsetting.
Shadow must change. Voidform must be removed. Without this change anything else they do will be wasted activity. The class needs to be reconceived and rebuilt on its true core: a hard hitting dot class. I would love to play spriest again but won’t touch it until voidform goes. Do it Blizzard, return Shadow from the land of the lost.
they can turn voidform into a hard hitting for class. If they remove the whole ramp up system in its entirety and bake a builder-spender into it. they could give us D.P as a spender once you’re in voidform and separate voidbolt and void eruption and make them a burst spenders one aoe and the other single target.
there are plenty of ideas on how to fix voidform the problem is Blizz’s idea and concept of the spec as a very slow ramp up mechanic.
On the bright side, if no external powers in Shadowlands have anything to do with voidform/insanity it could signal that they’re planning on removing voidform.
So I actually went back and listened to the interview again and…they are not changing anything about the spec.
Morgan mentioned that they will wait until everything is implemented to do some adjustments. which means they won’t touch the spec however they will add more borrowed powers to make it more tolerable.
Morgan also mentioned that Torghast anima powers are not spec related but are generic class anima. in other words they were too lazy to put effort in what they are hyping to be the highlight of the expan and just made generic class nonsense powers.
the powers are not even unique to each class. there is a build for priest where you can mind control rats which will make them reproduce and then you can blow them up and guess what…mage has the same build just more convenient. there conjure food conjures rats that can be killed for an explosive aoe dps.
honestly these interviews are not here to communicate with the community its to sell snake oil. they show up and say stuff like 'we wanted to go back to the core feeling of classes rather than making each spec disconnected from its class" which just means “we are not going to put actual work into each 37 specs we would rather cut corners and only work on 12 classes”…it’s so funny to think this is coming from such company as Blizzard.
Dude I couldn’t agree more! It feels like they aren’t listening to any of us. Holy, disc, or shadow. They just continue you take away from us and not put anything useful back.
Meanwhile Druid keeps it’s mobility, they get MORE utility, get’s a mechanic rework.I don’t want to see the favoritism but it’s readily apparent.
Not talking about the damage numbers, more about the playstyle and tool kit.
Priests have it worst , and not in a minimal way, out of all the hybrids that I have played.
The lack of utility in M+ competitive setting is a big drawback that doesn’t just carry in raiding in itself where your weakness are covered by other classes, but in mythic+ as well, where you have very NICHE utility , and compared to the druid class where they have a stun by talent , AOE silence, superior mobility, Battle rez, a knockback, superior single target priority damage with little ramp up, ursol’s vortex possibly, It’s not even a niche and the difficulty of making class NOT the same at this point, priests have gotten left behind in terms of mostly everything that makes a class enjoyable at this point.