It’s really not that serious man, you don’t need to keep coming back to write essays about it. People just disagreed with you, and that’s okay 
No, the issue was not the disagreement with what I said. it was the fact that I had the audacity to say anything that didn’t align with the opening posts perspective. I could have said anything other than agreement and it would have been taken as a problem.
Basically… agree with me or get lost attitude.
Read it over again if you want to confirm this yourself. Nothing was said that pertains to my idea, only that I did not conform to the initial posts perspective.
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The only things I’ll add to the back and forth now that the forum isn’t listing me as having no level 10s is this.
“Thou shallest be excellent to eachothereth.” -Bill, Ted, 1:3
“Thou shalt groove on it.” Brad Dharma (Psychadelic Detective)
Shadow also use to give a Flat 15% damage reduction, then they converted that to Damage instead.
I like the idea of just weaving it into the spec, and making it just a flavor.
Then when you pop Void Eruption, you snap into Shadow form for extra flair, and pop back out afterwards.
My biggest want for Shadow is for them to incorporate shadow spell effects for all abilities:
- Power Word: Shield - Becomes a Void/Shadow Bubble
- Levitate - Looks more like the way Xal levitates, no effects. Just floats.
- Flash Heal - Looks more like Shadow Mend
- Life Grip - Throws out a void tenticle and rips them back
When playing shadow, it really kills the vibe when you cast PW:S and get all sparkly.
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It used to give armor in TBC along with inner fire. Inner fire was removed, then later it was a flat dmg reduction. Also now gone. Been getting power crept by blizz for decades.
Shadowform needs to be made the Core of this spec.
The whole class should be designed around shadowform.
Shadowform should be something you always unlock mid-late in the tree and it should be a permanent affix.
---- With a glyph dimming it down enough for you to enjoy your transmog and mount if you so wish.
there should also be passives that directly enhance this form.
random idea concepts
you can even make void eruption a passive that when triggered, it shifts you briefly into a darker form, being voidform. – gain more dmg – mB turns to voidblast
– other passive ideas
– one that spawns and or triggers tentacles when void eruption activates etc.
– passive during voidform - Devouring plague becomes devouring void – able to spread itself to nearby enemies once --or its like a bomb that spreads to everyone nearby main target etc.
if you want more shadow form passive routes –
Devouring shadows + Hungering shadows- weaken enemies marked by vampric touch, making them more susceptible to your shadow spells, while healing you for a portion of the dmg you do overtime. (bringing back old vampiric touch here but only for you)
Make it a choice between the two: Deeper shadow control or losing yourself to insanity by entering the void.
I won’t go to deep in my madness. But the point is there is so much more that can be done.
This is what we have now. And we don’t want it. We want it to become cosmetic like the post title says.
They tried forcing being in Shadowform all the time on us in early Legion and people hated it. No one wants that.
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I don’t understand why people are so against us having a choice. There’s always 1 or 2 like “No! Don’t give everyone the choice of cosmetic options they want. EVERYONE must get the esthetic that I want because I’m the smartest and bestest and long winded in the land so sayeth me thy lord God!”
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no it isnt lol.
Shadowform is just a passive unnoticeable buff that you can remove by toggling it off. And the glyph they made doesn’t do justice to the armor showing as well.
You can further improve on this greatly.
what I shared, we have never had
if I designed it, you will never be able to toggle it off and it greatly enhances the class.
The glyph option will pretty much also make shadow form unnoticeable for those who don’t want to have it.
Infact, you can even have it auto-turn off when not in combat if that is the only gripe. Once in combat, it just auto “visually” appears.
i can endlessly go here.
legion forced you into Voidform.
Legion forced you into Shadowform in the very early stages. The glyph we have now makes us look like we fell into a vat of oil. And no one wants to play around with a silly GCD in this day and age to do 10% more DPS.
I’m so tired of convoluted ideas to “make things work” when it really could be so, so simple.
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Yup, it’s really that simple. Just bake the damage boost into the class, make Shadowform a cosmetic option for the people who love it, and everyone is happy.
Even the various theorycrafted “improved shadowform” stuff that people cook up (which I have nothing against) could just also be… passives and talents baked into the class, lol. Please don’t go back and tie MORE stuff back into this maintenance spell that should have been made optional years ago.
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Id prefer it be more impactful. A serious improvement to our shadow spells similar to Balance and moonkin form. I remember the outcry in legion when it became a passive. I don’t want to go back to that.
The experience of shifting into shadow should feel meaningful.
I don’t think blizzard has any interest in seeing it become irrelevant or cosmetic only. It’s been the corner stone of the specialization for… forever.
Plus they’re very attached to the readability of the game. Artistic direction is a pillar of game design.
You must not play Druid much because Moonkin Form is not that impactful at all.
Moonkin Form gives a 10% spell damage bonus (same as Shadowform). The only other things it does for them are Owlkin Frenzy which is not that crazy in group PvE, and could be baked into the class as a passive. The other being the armor bonus (yes ARMOR bonus by the way. Not flat damage reduction) which you do not even slightly notice since Boomkins are so damn squishy, one of the squishiest specs in the game. Polymorph immunity is PvP related most of the time.
So yeah. Both Shadowform and Moonkin Form in my opinion should be cosmetic in the year of our lord 2024. The true endgame is transmog.
This reasoning is so flawed. I really don’t agree with this mindset. Apply this to anything at all and the logic is just not there.
Nothing would ever change if everyone thought that way.
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Thank you for your analysis on my opinion.
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It’s nothing I’ve even mentioned. You rather complain about the past and not listen to something presented before you.
nothing I am talking about is correlated to the past designs.
It really is silly that I have to utilize a macro with fort buff to also activate shadowform … just one of many ways the priest class is stuck in the past
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Macros are used to streamline preferred functions with literally every class in the game.
I want a glyph for the vanilla spriest version. I don’t like the weird grape jelly look it currently has and I want to hide bad mogs in a dark glow of abyss
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I think I hit delete by accident… reposting!
Yeah, me too. I LOVED that for my priest.
In fact, while I’m not mad at Void Magic at all - it’s absolutely amazing for Void elves and whatnot = but Blizzard literally deleted the Shadow spec theme to make that Voidmage. Kind of ruined the whole flavor of the spec for Forsaken spriests.
What ever sliver of “shadow priest” is left in the shadow tree is very vestigial and it’s ironic that Disc tends to feel more shadowy (no void) than shadow itself.
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Well, that’s quite the generalization going on there about “no one wanting it”.
Shadow form is part of the identity of the spec just like cat form for ferals and what not.
My opinion is that Shadow form needs to have a larger impact on what it does for the class similar to the past versions instead of just 10% damage boost.
I’m not saying that it should be cancelled by Holy/disc abilities, but I do think that there should be a reason to drop it that’s powerful enough to justify the extra global to re-enter Shadow form, but even that should probably be left the way it is mainly because I lack faith in Blizzard’s ability to make it function.
Plus my transmog looks amazing in Shadow form with red glowing effects on the shoulder wings and what not.
It makes more sense to keep it as it is, and add a Glyph to have the form look like a normal/Shadowless version that maintains some form of Shadow effects around it in my opinion.
Having a few more cosmetic options via Glyph would be great as it doesn’t require rebalancing in any way and requires minimal art team/dev team resources.