I’d love pw:s to see a buff to bring it up closer to flash heals value. Having them similar heals and providing different unique functions(movement/defensive) would definitely be a plus for the class. Especially when its heals are competing with things like ret that have insane heal values on them and also an instant.
I still play Shadow, I enjoy playing Shadow. I think that this current playstyle of Shadow is the most enjoyable the Spec has been since forever.
I dont understand the arguement that just because a spec has a ton of players everything is working fine, and everything with the spec is enjoyable.
Ofcourse PL is a “pro” of the spec since we have massive cleave with it. But that does not make the issues of PL and Shadows current AoE situation dissappear.
I never said I was unhappy with the changes that Midnight brought either. I dont know where you’re getting these ideas from.
Just because Midnight brought many improvements to the Spec doesnt mean the spec is perfect.
And there are many ways to introduce a AoE spender instead of just making another button for the spec.
I am still not saying that Shadow is supposed to be a copy of another class just because I feel like an AoE spender would be good for the health of the spec.
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I would have loved to have seen PW:S get a void shield/vengeance component to it and have offensive impact along with a bigger shield, even if it put it on a longer CD.
nah on shadow pw:s is a movement tool/ small preventative damage tool. Given our lack of mobility i’d rather it be on a low cd and a better to use short duration sprint with feather as an emergency backup. Void shield doesn’t play into the strengths of shadow as a theme for the class.
Not to mention survivability. I’m at ilvl 232 and have the PVE survivability of a wet tissue.
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Yeah, that is the problem with making PWS a BnS button. I think they should just remove BnS, it’s awkward and GCD heavy, could just improve feather or make levitate a mobility spell with charges.
I’d rather have PW:S be a movement tool personally. Its just as gcd heavy as feather as you don’t really need more than 3sec for most movement in the game and the shield, albeit small, is still mitigation. Buffing its shield to about flash heal value would be welcome though.
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Mind sear should of never been removed
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PS in pvp battleground has almost never not been my number one damage. it usually does around 18%-22% of my damage based on the 5 bgs i played today. it will now do only 60% of that. with no buff.
I miss SW:D procs from DF season 1. Change the current Archon SW:D talent to that so we can make a proper SW:D build.
They disassembled Shadow word:Death into so many useless talents to fill our talent/hero trees.
A sign of low effort and disorganisation.
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Honestly to me, Shadow in Dragon Flight before the rework felt really good.. Yes it could get busy, but it gave at least some choice over what you did based on the situation when you got procs
Shadow has always had a skill need, which honestly we should have some classes that do.. And to be clear, if I could play it while I was going through Chemo.. it wasnt that hard lol
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df s1 was my favorite too. Getting that free mind sear and watching the ghosts come out was peak.
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truthfully, having Void Torrent do a proc to mind sear on conditions (as long as it renews dots like it used to) would almost make up for the pyshic link nerf
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Shadow in DF S1 was my favorite iteration on the spec tbh I feel like with PL being our only AoE option makes us really volatile and the tuning on it is proof of that
I totally second this. SW: D is a sham of what it used to be and now it needs 5 talent nodes to still be completely underwhelming. No one even looks at the lower left side of the shadow talent tree.
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I think PvP will still be fine. BG’s you are going to feel the PL nerf for sure but in arena I think it will be just fine. The class is kind of a tank and it’s not all the time people stack up in 3s or 2s to always have your PL ticking away. I’ll still main Spriest for arenas
PvE, boy am I glad I leveled another class lol. I will be doing PvE on my Devourer DH for season 1 now. I can see pugging have a Spriest sitting in silvermoon for hours. I want to be optimistic that these changes “level each other out” but there’s no way man. This is such a huge nerf to m+ Spriest. Frost mages/Boomys/Devokers are all going to be miles ahead.
Better find a good m+ guild or team willing to carry you!
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it was already a donation to invite a shadow priest, now it’s straight up rage baiting your group. Should be a reportable offense
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In bgs 18%-22% of my damage comes from PL.
That was just nerfed by like 40%.
We didn’t get any of the buffs. The large nerf was also offset by our single target damage buffs. None of that is true and we just take a fat 40% nerf to our top damage spell in BGs and our executes can still do 5% to me and 2% to the enemy I guess in your eyes…
Check how much of your pressure comes from PL in arenas. You will be surprised.
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Any chances that this PL nerf may see a retification tomorrow to a more sensible amount? 
Playing a Spriest is a treatise on masochism. When the rare occasion that a Spriest is top performing, you’re lucky if it lasts a whole season.
And the worst part is that it played so well early Beta, before the insanity generation nerfs.