No notes on shadow again, is just crazy.
those posts that came over night are not shocking though.
Wow a spell that buffs shadow word death, an already extremely weak spell that did nothing, instead of increasing its damage, to bring it more in line, let’s waste more space on the talent tree by making a talent that makes sewage water into gutter water.
Man, they never cease to disappoint.
First, they moved Death And Madness from the Class tree to the Spec tree AS A CHOICE NODE with Deathspeaker which made SW:D already worse than it is in TWW.
Then they are introducing a new talent specifically for Archon only to increase its wet noodle damage by 25%. AND it seems to be a choice node with Spiritwell that further buffs Shadowy Apparitions. It is so out of place. What is going on here?
Not to mention that we already lost the proc above execute range.
It’s official
This class and spec is dead.
Of course they would post it late at night too.
The best part, another talent bloat for shadowy apparitions lmao. Gg done, I’m out
Nah, the best part is that they are giving archon better Voidform extension again even though Voidform doesn’t do anything in Mindnight. No damage increase, no Void Bolt, no mastery on all targets. Just does nothing.
What’s the point of extending the duration of a cooldown that doesn’t do anything?
This is the worst version of sp yet. Horrid
Not gonna lie, I expected more from this week’s notes. We still have unimplemented talents as alpha is coming to an end.
Shadow has a fairly big player base and deserves more attention. Please?
Blizz will not care.
There’s enough subscribers for the new DH spec, people who will buy the game just for that.
I think the problem is the have been videos circulating from players who don’t have extensive history with priest saying how good the gameplay is. So the player base is likely mislead and divided.
Why? This is exactly how every priest update has gone for every spec, every time for the last decade.
The one, single exception to this pattern was discipline in 11.1, and that wasn’t even a matter of them iterating on the design. All they did was change Void Summoner from requiring Smite spam to a fixed cooldown reduction. One change after they pushed the changes and it was the most responsible they’ve ever been with updating the class.
Things they need to do (And more crucially still have time to do within the span of beta development)
1: Add back SW:P
2: Consolidate our offensive CDs
3: Increase the potency of and reduce the duration of voidform (Ptr projections are it’ll be well over a minute with current tuning).
4: Make SW:D feel good to press.
5: Either add back DoT extension or uncap tentacle slam.
all i gotta say reroll.
Playing th is class will just make them feel like they can get away with it.
#Reroll OFF Priest
+1 on this, except for the Voidform part.
At this point, I’d rather they just give us PI as our “main CD” (and remove it from the Priest tree and the Twins talent).
The whole idea of increasing VF’s duration feels like something lingering from the Legion days, and it seems to do more harm to the entire kit than good.
Seeing Mind Blast actually hit hard again would be great too, currently its just something that you press for insanity generation it seems like.
But I guess thats an issue with how out of place our mastery is aswell.
My issue with this is just that shadow’s rotational gameplay without the extra button voidform throws into the mix is extremely dull / outdated compared to what the majority of casters are doing.
PI doesn’t do anything.
That issue only exists because the spec is broken from the ground up.
All these cooldowns, and every other cooldown, are locked behind the first one.
Void Blast behind Void Torrent in the VW tree. Void Volley behind Void Torrent (currently). Void Bolt locked behind Voidform.
Mind Flay: Insanity locked behind every 2nd cast of DP.
It’s obvious that we won’t get anything that changes that, considering the radio silence from the devs.
But in my opinion, that is one of the glaring issues with Shadow.
It’s a builder → spender spec, but everything that makes the spec feel good to play is locked behind cooldowns that also feel weak on their own.
DP also feels weak as a spender, and we only have a single-target spender as well.
I just idk, don’t see any of these as problems.
What I do see as a problem is that Voidform is currently 75%+ of our active time in combat.
If it were 25%, then the other 75% would have to feel impactful too.
That’s exactly my point.
Why should we “need” to spend 75%+ of our active time in a 2-minute CD to actually feel like the spec works? We shouldn’t be able to increase the duration of VF at all, imo. It feels like that is one of the issues that forces them to make it so weak to begin with.
The cooldown should be something that makes the base spec do more and/or makes the spec feel more powerful. But currently, the spec feels horrible without it.
The base spec feels horrible unless we’re in our 2-minute cooldown.
My main point is that we shouldn’t have to rely on being in our cooldown to feel good. We shouldn’t need to press Void Torrent to have access to an AoE like Void Volley, etc.
Void volley isnt aoe though…? Psychic link is all shadow’s AoE.
And ye. We shouldn’t need to be in voidform to feel good.
Yea it is not Shadows Aoe in that sense since Psychic Link is still the game sadly.
My point is just that we should need to have a CD like volley locked behind another CD.
PI has been shadow’s main cooldown since Dragonflight.
That said, they need to change PI for shadow to be a passive attached to Voidform now that the option for a 60s cooldown is gone.
The bare minimum they must do before release is reduce the cooldown of Void Volley so that it feels rotational rather than incidental (and 11s is not short enough), add the DoT extension from Void Bolt (RIP) to Void Volley, and remove the following from the class tree:
All those talents could be condensed or removed to solve a lot of the talent tree’s bloat problems without Blizzard fixing their design, so they could absolutely do that without deviating from their “ignore the community about the design being a complete failure” strategy.
Yeah this spec is beyond dead to me, I am not going through this mess again 
Praying the the DH equivalent of Publik appreciates my DH memes the way Publik did with Shadow 
I understand your frustration, I’m shopping for a new main too, but don’t give up entirely.
There’s always time for changes until launch.