Server Merge Inconsistencies

LOL … connected was implied through the sense of having other people from other servers to interact with. Wow. You have nothing relevant to add to my points, so revert to trying to critique minor points.

Got it, you’re unable to acknowledge you’re wrong and don’t want to give me the courtesy of reading what I wrote so I’m wasting my time responding to you.

Have a good day dude. :wave:

You’re right. They think that seeing people from other servers means they’re connected (it doesn’t) because they don’t understand the difference between connected realms and CRZ.

I’m done with this thread. Arguing with uninformed people is pointless.

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It isnt just my opinion. Look up what people can do with each other from cross server without being connected. You can do everything with each other, other than being in the same guild, trading, and mythic raiding when it first comes out.

Hence why the main thing it affects is the raiding scene on a server. The only other factor is not being able to trade with other people from other servers, which doesnt impact ones experience nearly as much as if there is too low of a population to have any form of raiding scene on a server or faction.

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So happy we could agree on something finally! :blush:

Connected Realm means you’re on this list:

Mal’ganis is not on that list. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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Link a source to where Blizzard stated raiding was the reason for server merges. Also, you are just plain wrong.

What you just said right here proves you dont understand the terms being used here. Connected server is an actual specific feature in WoW. To loosely use it as a sense of having other people to interact with is using the term wrong, hence why you dont know what you’re talking about.

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Maybe try reading my response? You seem so stuck on one thing, which had zero to do with your initial retort directed at me. It’s okay though, you’re done here. Right?

I could dissect multiple things you’ve said to show you have zero understanding too and the times you’ve contradicted yourself; however, I’ll let you sit on your soap box and get a pat on the back from the other dude who is grasping at straws to zero in on one minor segment of my many responses on here to think I don’t know what I’m talking about.

If it makes you feel better, think what you want. I’m not here to argue semantics about merging realms.

The fact stands, every realm has players to interact with who are not from their server. If you wish to highlight that part and gloat about how I’m wrong … more power to you homey. You’ll be missing every other point I made to both of you.

I’m sorry, did you say that you did not say they didn’t do any research? In case you forgot, I quoted some times on this post that you said exactly that.

Also, this literally means you think they aren’t doing the proper research to be doing their realm connections.

Sounds like they won’t see which guilds don’t have enough members if that’s the case, then, meaning that your post about them enabling people to recruit more members won’t help if they aren’t showing non-guild runs.

I already addressed this here:

Lots of people on Moonguard happen to do end game content. You said yourself you don’t know/check.

Do you realize how many guilds are even in the game? How many guilds they’d have to sort through to even get an accurate count of a horde:alliance ratio?

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There wouldn’t be any other reason to merge servers, people can do every other possible thing in the game together through cross server tech. The only reasons is either being in guilds together, raiding together, or trading with one another. Of all three of those things the biggest impact on a players experience in the game is if they can get into a raiding guild or not due to the population of the game. If the population was low youd still be able to buy stuff off of the AH since the other faction is populated enough to have things on the AH, as well as selling stuff on the AH… so trading isnt impacted nearly as much as the raiding scene on a server is if the server is dead on a faction.

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Ok, you have no idea what you are talking about! Thanks for the misinformation in this thread.

I got a few chuckles out of it.

Please apply for a job at Blizzard so you can fix the server mergers!

Yep its confirmed youre just trolling, Have a nice day!

Yes, you are with this thread!

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Half of what you just said was irrelevant to this thread. Also youre quoting parts of sentences Ive said without quoting everything I said. When I say IT SEEMS like they arent doing research, Im not saying that they arent, Im saying it seems like they arent, there is a difference. Also I dont know why Moonguard is even in this conversation if you’re saying yourself they have a healthy raid environment to begin with, it has nothing to do with what Im saying, its not even part of the connected realms list too.

I realize how many guilds are in the game, but they dont have to sort through every single guild specifically. Its fast and easy to look up the server lists of guilds and their progressions on raids on wowprogress, there isnt any specific guild searching needed at all. Im sorry if youre not aware of this, Im sure blizzard is well aware of how the website works at least!

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The sheer fact that you’re ignoring literally what everyone is telling you and preaching whatever you want, even if you’re not sure.
I didn’t quote the entire sentence due to the fact that quite a few of them were quite lengthy and you strayed away from your main point a number of times in the same quote. Nothing is particularly out of context considering I quoted full sentences instead of impartial statements.
What seems “easy” and “non time-consuming” is only that to you considering you don’t have to then see what side each guild is on, what server, how many guilds are on that one server and then proceed to connect realms that would match.
You’re expecting far too much from them pre-expac.
You’ve also said they aren’t doing doing research for their realm connections, which there’s no way that you’d even know that. You’ve said both it seems and that they aren’t, you don’t get to cherry pick just because I called you out on it. That’s ridiculous.

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blackrock also

the realms we were linked with + us dont even bring us up to 70% of kil’jaedens population or raiding community
and kil’jaeden is considered by most to be low pop/inactive itself LMAO

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Youve actually linked the exact same quote more than once in your post, but some of the times it was just part of it to make it look like it was taken from a different part.

Im not ignoring anything that people are telling me. I have experienced every single thing that I have posted in this thread. To tell me Im wrong is mind boggling to me because I have literally lived it. I had a friend read through the thread and hes laughing at responses because they dont make sense from someone from the point of view of going through this issue right now. Hes saying they clearly haven’t gone through what we have gone through if theyre saying these things.

The website literally shows all of that info with one simple search of a server. You really dont know what youre talking about. This isnt expecting too much at all. These things are very fast and easy to figure out if you know how to use the tools right.

The website isnt needed at all from my own experience, these servers Im talking about are so dead on some factions they only have a few active raiding guilds, its not hard at all to keep track of them when the server is that small. I could see from the perspective of someone on a big server how that would seem impossible, but on a tiny server its extremely easy.

They shouldve at least linked Korgath with Blackrock, because as far as I used to know, Blackrock was mostly Horde, and Im aware that Korgath is mostly Alliance, so it wouldve connected well together.

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That’s actually wrong, lol. I scrolled through 90 posts to find specifically each different time you said it. Those are from 4 different posts. go ahead and press the down arrow in the top right of the quote.

Well then you aren’t reading what we’re saying obviously, you’ve repeated pretty much the same thing to me the past 3 posts verbatim and addressed things I had already touched base on multiple posts prior.

Oh, good for you, you had a friend come to your rescue. To say that we haven’t had the same experiences is unfair, first of all. There’s maybe 3 guilds on my server that actually do end-game content and have enough people to feasibly do said content.

I said this earlier. One server at a time is not fast nor is it easy. It is expecting too much considering wow has 241 NA realms, 263 EU realms, and that’s not including Oceania, Korea, and Taiwan. So that’s 500 realms for two server sets alone that they’d have to go through.
Try telling me again that the smallest guilds on the smallest servers isn’t hard to keep track of out of 500+ realms.
For the record, my server was not large until last week. I avoid large servers on principle, so don’t speak for my experiences when you are unaware of anyone’s other than your own.

Ive counter argumented every excuse against me saying they should be able to keep a healthy population on every faction on every server in this game. Its you whos not reading what Im saying. You just dont understand how easy and fast it truly is to look this stuff up. I can tell because you clearly aren’t aware of the website if you don’t even know the capabilities of it.

No friends coming to my rescue, I was just sending it to him for a bit of entertainment. If you’ve gone through the same thing, and see that there is so few guilds on some servers that do end game content then you will understand that its not hard or time consuming to find these things out.

One server can take maybe about 2 minutes of looking up and down the raid progress list. I can actually do it myself without even any computer training!

Lets be generous and say it takes 3 minutes per server, but honestly thats way more time than what would actually be needed. But lets also keep in mind, lots of those servers from the 500 servers you say WoW has have already been merged 5 years ago, and the website actually already collects the info and puts it all into one for the ones that are already connected! Who wouldve thought! So lets go to the max of 500 realms for EU and NA…which again, is actually being generous here because lots of those are already merged, then we multiply it by 3 for 3 minutes per realm, and then divide it by 60 to see how many hours it would take to figure out how long it would take to do some research on this.

That would come out to a whopping 25 hours for ONE person to look this information up IF there was 500 seperate servers in NA and EU.

Is paying one guy 25 hours not worth making sure every population in their game that they make billions of dollars off of is in a healthy state? Yes there is also Oceanic but they only have 11 servers, and some of those are connected to.

I have no clue about Korea and Taiwan, but based off of how quickly all of this info could be obtained by one employee for all other servers other than Korea and Taiwan, clearly its something worth investing in.

This is such a simple task that they can even have an intern doing it.

Once they have the info, they can then mix match the servers together to make sure that each faction is in a good enough standing that it doesn’t require people to transfer off to find a raiding guild.

This is just with the site that has to be manually operated too, if blizzard has better tools at their disposal, I wouldn’t doubt they have an automated system that could take all the info and organize it for them.

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Okay, so that’s 16+ hours of work for only the servers I named, since I don’t have an exact count.

Here’s another thing, who are you to say they’re even allowed to use a source that may or may not be reliable since it is not directly related to any Blizzard affiliated website? Ever think about the fact that most workplaces keep their information to themselves for very good reasons?

It’s not worth hiring one guy for 25 hours of work, no, that’s literally ridiculous.

Suggesting they have interns…

However, you will most likely always need to transfer off eventually. They’re only delaying the inevitable. They aren’t supposed to know that your server is going to die/will be revived if they do xyz, that’s not in their power. They aren’t omnipotent, my guy.

This is a major if, and they’re probably using an automated tool to combine realms right now, which you seem to be dissatisfied with. So, this would most likely require a person, not a computer.