Different teams
cause that what we wanted classic with actual balance changes
It is not a beta for anything. It is its own thing.
Glad for these hunter changes. As a hunter I was looking forward to play with new buttons and now I can play with them without being punished.
this doesnât fix the issue at all. the main issue is we have no leg rune
also you didnât Buff any âMain Spellsâ
the better change would have been
To not do the Chimera shot / explosive shot change go through keep them nerfed
Change BM rune to a Leg rune
Buff lone wolf by 10% (needs to be aLeg rune)
Move Sniper Training to chest
Move KC to Hand rune
that way you have to choose to either run
lone wolf / chimera/explosive
OR
BM rune and KC
But nope the only pure dps class needs to be last on the dps meters
We are not even that good in pve or pvp.
BTW no true hunter even wants their pet doing everything but these changes do nothing but hurt both play styles⌠who ever is doing these types of nerfs needs to be fired
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SoD is probably the most played mode atm. WotLKC had 400k+ players before SoD came out and dropped to below 200k (at least the logged population numbers). Not sure how much retail dropped after SoD launched but Iâm sure it got hit as well. I suspect the majority of SoD players are WotLKC and Retail players who were bored.
Do not worry they did not nerf our chest rune healing! oh wait, our chest rune options for healing are all worthless. This is a pve nerf because of pvp so thank all the premades stacking priests and hunters.
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One thing I would like to see is game balance independent for PVE & PVP. Hunters are honestly pretty balanced in PVE right now. Hunter pets were absolutely overtuned in PVP though, and 100% needed to be nerfed. I feel like independent scaling between PVE/PVP would solve so many complaints from both sides. But perhaps the extra coding work is just too much/not possible? Not meaning to criticize, genuinely curious.
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Oh no, the one class that has an important and massive hp buff and a magic dispel heals less than before
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Guess Blizzard wants me to cancel my sub? Oh, youâre having fun? Here, let me fix thatâŚ
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Doesnât make sense to me. Give priests extremely strong runes and give others healers crap, except for wild growth, then say priests are outperforming 1.5 months later. That should have been obvious when they designed the runes
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Chest Rune -
Lone Wolf - Unusable with pet scaling at extra 15% damage only or if raid needs Lion. Nobody is going to ditch their pets for this.
Master Marksman - 5% crit and 25% reduced mana cost of shots. Straight up worse than the 10% extra stats from Lion I think.
Cobra Strikes - If you crit your petâs next 2 attacks crit. Way too circumstantial and underwhelming to ever be used.
Aspect of the Lion - Pretty much the only good rune here.
Legs -
Kill Command - Was good with serpent, but now that its only used for bite/claw it does too little extra damage for a 1 minute cooldown and rune slot. Bad.
Sniper Training - 10% extra crit from ABILITIES(NOT AUTOSHOT), if you STAND STILL FOR 6 SECONDS. ⌠uh ok
Serpent Spread - 6 seconds of serpent sting (which is useless because it doesnt scale with anything) when you use multishot. (terrible)
Flanking Strike - Used for the melee weaving hunter that is not fun to play at all.
Hands -
Beast Mastery - Youâve nerfed this, but its still the best rune because of pet scaling.
Chimera Shot - 85% to 100%. Not enough. This is way too weak. Refreshing serpent sting is useless because serpent sting doesnt scale its too weak.
Explosive Shot - 25% buff to a terrible horrible aoe attack. Absolutely unusable.
Carve - Melee Aoe. Nobody uses this.
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get it right the first time, hunters dont deserve to be nerfed 20 times, you gutted world buffs from pets, you gutted kill command working with almost all pets but raptors and cats, and now your gutting the beast mastery rune, just remove BM as a whole at this point, incompetent devs, trash.
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Can you please look at shaman damage/healing. But primarily healing. Both shaman dmg specs are at the bottom of the performance logs in bfd - only losing to priests and frost mages.
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Nah this is crap⌠The chim shot buff is no where close to making up the dmg loss from our pet. Why keep nerfing hunters when Warriors and Rogues are both significantly above hunters in dps?? I get nerfing the pet dmg because of pvp, but not buffing the hunters to compensate is just an overall nerf again. Why not buff arcane shot too? It hits for 30 dmg and costs 50 mana. Of coarse blizzard wont do what they said and bring other classes dps up to warriors.
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Totally right here. How about they incrementally tune things instead of beating **** into the ground every time? FFS
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Massive understatement. 1st to potentially last on heals, and 3rd for healer damage. The healing before was close enough where the only reason you -really- brought a priest was the dispel. So if thereâs no world shattering dispel in p2, people will just buy stam scrolls and take decurse/disease/poison⌠which means Mage/Druid/Sham. If thereâs not dispel in P2 priest is dead in PVE in a 10 man. Hopefully shadow PUMPS.
Shaman healing is absolutely fine. The only healer that needs a look right now is mage, and only on their healing. The base healing of their heals needs to be increased, its not even worth it to channel the full ability. Just get the buff up and then go back to chromatic healing. Or change their healing from a channel to a âhotâ which also applies the buff. That would solve a lot of mage healing problems.
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Nope. But a npc pet shouldnât be better than every other class in the game 
useless is not the same as balanced. Stop your gaslight and l2p instead of piggybacking a broken build.
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The pure dps class should be top dps. Stop nerfing hunters because of level 25 pvp. What are you thinking?
Here is a novel idea. End game should not be warrior/rogue meta for SOD.
Either turn hunters into viable tanks with pet or let us be top dps as the pure dps class.
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