Season of Discovery – Ashenvale PvP Changes December 7

Earlier the addon only showed 7 layers, now it shows 10.

I don’t see why there would be empty layers, they can spin new layers up as they need them. The fact that they have that many suggests at the least during peak hours they needed that many.

The event was about to start then both sides just reset to zero. No layer change.

You guys don’t say Q?

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I know at some point in retail they changed the queuing system to prefer groups going against groups. However, it’s not a perfect system, nor could it be. If one group has 9 players in their premade and another has 10, then a solo has to come to fill that last spot. It’s a better system than the FFA it is now though.

What I’d like to see is ilvl brackets. Look at how much abuse undergeared players get in BGs. They could all be playing against themselves and having fun instead. And then the geared players wouldn’t have poorly geared players dragging their team down either.

The flip side of either of those solutions is that queues take longer for everybody. In my opinion it’s worth it.

Nice, i cant wait for premade vs premade to be a thing. :slight_smile:

This sounds like absolute dog poo.

Why does the creative approach to the Ashenvale PvP event feel overly simplistic? With its vast zone, there’s incredible potential for diverse activities beyond merely eliminating lieutenants and generals, resembling a limited Alterac Valley. Imagine introducing randomized spawn locations or incorporating unpredictable pathing elements. Adding a resource collection aspect, where factions battle over guarded resources were these supposed lieutenants are forcing each side to support the lieutenant during the battles, could elevate the experience significantly.

It feels like there’s untapped potential for a genuine PvP event rather than what seems like more PvE with numerous players present but lacking a compelling reason to engage. The underlying game mechanics could easily enforce engagement to ensure reaping the benefits

It’s frustrating when existing game elements could be repurposed for a more engaging event, yet there’s hesitance to take risks and infuse novelty into the experience. Especially when the theme revolves around freshness and innovation, it’s surprising that more daring steps weren’t taken to breathe new life into this event.

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Nah that would just lead to more twinking to abuse the bracket. Cause then I will Twink in an item level bracket with full enchants, buffs etc and stay there to farm HK’s. It’s over complicated and creates more problems. Don’t get me wrong I love Twinking and think it’s vital to PvP and WoW. It’s just this suggestion will divide us more and not give you the desired effect.

There should be another bracket of 20-24 though and 25’s alone.

Please, I’ve went into 13 WSG games and 11 were against pre-made teams.

I mean, it’s proven to work on private servers like warmane. The only downside is a slightly longer queue. If you want to twink the the bgs then you’ll get going against other twinks with similar ilvl. That’s what you should want anyways as a twink, rather than to completely annihilate lower ilvl players. I’m not sure I even understand how you’re suggesting it would be an issue.

I keep getting phased to a different layer before the event ends and into a layer that the event isn’t even active in, so I’m losing out on the rep.

You won’t. You will just drop ilvl to be against lower ilvl to be twinked against non-twinks.

We already done this in Shadowlands when we had PvP gear scaling and we dropped our gear ilvl to do more damage to abuse scaling then it was removed.

While what your suggesting isn’t scaling. It’s the same concept and not worth the trouble. It’s overly complicated and won’t have the desired effect. We don’t need ilvl brackets. It’s just not a good idea that will lead to Min/Maxing in regressive way instead of progression.

What we need is correct character level brackets. 10-19 and 20-24 and 25’s. Then we just need a Solo Que button. Very simple and great way to make sure we have organic random PvP.

Delusional if you think any of this matters with your random layering even during the event. Just give me my 200 rep for losing and call it good.

I still don’t understand your argument. Again, it already works on private servers. That’s why they do it. Your argument makes no sense. You’re saying do nothing and let all the twinks abuse the system rather than doing something and making it harder for the twinks to abuse the system. But not like it matters. Your opinion doesn’t matter. My opinion doesn’t matter. It is what is it, and it won’t be changed. That’s why we have private servers where they actually manage the game and try to prevent the toxicity.

It won’t work on official servers.

It makes perfect sense.

Your suggestion would make it where more Twinks abuse the system. You are creating another problem. It’s not the way. It’s a complicated solution without a good result that would lead to a different type of Min/Maxing.

We been here before. This has been suggested in Retail but it won’t work cause it’s easily abusable.

I didn’t say do nothing I already said what the answer is.

Solo Que is literally the answer. 10 years from now it will still be the answer. It’s always been the answer.

You haven’t said anything whatsoever to support your claim it wouldn’t work. Saying stuff like “it’s not the way” isn’t saying anything. Again, it already works on private servers. There is no reason it couldn’t work on blizzard servers too. You’re just making stuff up.

And this thread wasn’t about you in the first place. Please stop trying to be a main character.

Please refer back to my comment where i pointed out that neither of our opinions matter on the topic.

In other words, you don’t need to try to convince me. You aren’t going to change my mind. I’ve seen it working in action.

I did but now I’m exhausted. It’s been explained I’m sorry you don’t understand.

Why do you think what works there would work here since it’s different. I’m telling you it will just be like SL again. Rextroy or someone can just make an in game script to abuse the ilvl brackets and Min/Max your dmg for that bracket.

We will just have people a new type of Twink 1 shotting non Twinks.

I’m not though. Ok please implement this system so we can abuse it and 1 shot players.

Believe what you want though.

Thanks main character for always responding. Goodbye now.