Saurfang on Dazar'alor SPOILERS

In truth that was a that was a moment of unreliable narrator as the alliance side Genn said no such thing…

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Saurfang is apparently guilty about his actions in the 1st war, but not guilty enough not to use Llane Wrynn’s death for a cheap insult against the Alliance.

Pathetic.
Orcs really are just savages with no concept of atonement. Thrall is only different because he was raised by humans.

I thought this was an established aspect of the Warcraft universe back when WoD came out and completely destroyed what lingering potential the orcs as a race had. Thrall and rare exceptions like the Shadowmoon Exiles(WoD) were the exception to the rule, and both were aligned with/influenced by the Alliance.

What is it with BfA retroactively proving WC2-era “villains” right? First Cataclysm with redeeming Genn and making him a full on good guy, then Daelin’s vindication about the orcs/Horde, and how orcish internment camps being the only reason Thrall was a “good orc”.

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We sacked a base of war operations killed soldiers fighting in war, and plundered treasures as the spoils of war. Perhaps you should have picked the winning side instead of victim-complexing about a war you started.

And in the face of defeat he monologues like a fool instead of recognizing he is beaten and goes down dying under the euphoric spell of a death loa that he’s now cursed his own daughter with.

The Alliance never demanded his daughter; that’s just another horde lie you dogmatically accept at face value without question.

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He was talking about Rastakhan, not Llane. Careful, your inner human paladin is showing.

Your soldiers also killed civilians and desecrated holy sites on the way to Rastakhan. Why WOULD he surrender peacefully?

If the loa of death was directly aiding him in the fight, he had a pretty good reason to think he could win. “Recognizing he is beaten” makes no sense.

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That is the point! He slings such an insult against the Alliance, when the Horde did it long before the Alliance ever did!

It was war, and if he didnt surrender more of his people would end up dead. Regardless, it looks like sylvanas will end up sacrificing the remains of his fleet anyway come Rise of Aszhara.

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Fake news guy.

Holy sites being destroyed by collateral damage in a war you started is not our concern. Ending the war to secure peace is our concern.

You know you’ve lost the battle when the enemy army shows up in your thrown room after carving a path through your massive temple complex. He was delusional from all the drugs Bwonamdi was drugging him with while screaming like a madman about his empire.

Arrogance was his downfall. Just like his empire was decaying due to his arrogance before his daughter steps in to save it. It’s a recurring theme in his character. He’s an arrogant, incompetent fool who enabled Zul to start several wars against the world under his name.

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What holy site?

At this point the player’s already responsible for millions of various deaths, it was just a matter of time for someone to capitalize.

The Loa Temple… ? Maybe

It begs the question, what makes his land holy? a dead titan keeper hand? a bunch of dead paladins buried underneath? a cosmic fountain of immeasurable power?
Also as a human paladin i must ask *cracks neck and fingers
If IT WaS sO hOLy THen WHy ThEy DIeD?

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He became more powerful that arthas could imagine, dont see any problem here.