Sad how dead arena is

I feel like this is a hyperbole. Lfg is a lot more empty, especially at lower ratings, with the addition of shuffle. However, i usually see a dozen + teams regularly.

I have seen FAR more toxicity in rss and at lower ratings than I have ever seen in coordinated 3s and higher rated play and it’s not close.

I absolutely think improvements can be made, but I think it’s a playerbase issue more than a design one, and I think the playerbase behaves more and more this way because they’re being catered to instead of being punished for being toxic.

Old xp is almost always irrelevant in the current season. Good players will continue to be successful.

It’s why a season 1 ret paladin elite means nothing in the current meta.

Exactly. There is SO much self handicapping it’s unbelievable.

Most normal people are able to point and laugh at some loser raging at them in a video game. Rss and bgb 100% killed arena. The player base is spread too thin and people queue the easiest most inflated bracket

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At exactly equal inflation, more people will q rss.

Convenience is king.

Welcome to 2024 bebby.

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I mean why talk to people or figure out queues if you play shuffle for a few hours and get all the rewards

Sure, coordinated stuff is fun, but if there’s a quicker/easier way it’ll often be taken

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If a new mode can kill an old mode, then it should die.

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Make ranked 1v1s with 1500 free mmr and it becomes the best mode

Remove pvp entirely and just give people CR for playing comp stomp and it’s the best most popular

Ya feels me here

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But this behavior is more pertinent to solo queue tho

Sooooo…

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Sounds like solo shuffle rounds in a sub 1600 lobby.

Maybe, but youre being disingenuous and pretending qing up is not a system that is miles more convenient than slogging through lfg.

At equal inflation, and with no glad mount, rss and blitz still win over lfg.

Same resistance, less rewards, yet still wins.

Lol you guys still play WoW

It’s so funny to me that a lot of these guys are like 40

I don’t think the glad mount matters to the majority of the players, though, because even with the inflation we’ve seen every season there just aren’t that many players interested in improving and/or feel like it’s an insurmountable wall to climb so they don’t even try.

After all, the vast majority of all the other rewards are unlocked at 16, 18, and 2100 when starting shuffle mmr is ~1800 atm. All you gotta do is go 50/50 for a few lobbies and you’ll get your elite set and tier token, which is what most peoples’ goals are.

It is a pretty steep time investment honestly. My friends have not come back from end of DF, and tho i havent really stepped into the arena on this account, its just no fun without your actual friends (to me). I play to have fun, if im not having fun i play one of my other classes.

I find it weirds its only forum gladiators who hate on RSS, meanwhile actual rank 1s love and live in the mode. Obviously it isnt a terrible mode, otherwise they wouldn’t be queueing

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Hmm? I don’t think people hate the mode, I think they hate what it does to the community and the sense of entitlement it created.

I enjoy shuffle. I love that there’s an option to just press Q for if your friends are busy or there aren’t other teams Qing around your mmr. I also genuinely enjoy the versatility of the game mode having to play with and against different specs.

I don’t like how the first season was so INSANELY inflated that lifetime 1400 players were getting 2800+.
Not because of gatekeeping or anything silly like that; they earned those rewards same as everyone else.
However, ever since then there’s been this pervasive expectation that EVERY season be similarly inflated and, if it’s not, there’s an “mmr cap” or “blizzard needs to fix mmr”.

Then people echo chamber whine and moan into a cacophony that scares players away from Qing which creates the exact “deflation” they’re so annoyed with and it’s 100% their own fault.

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No but seriously :drooling_face: as a noob you can’t cause rage to others if you don’t have teammates, and you get reps to learn your spec and practice. 1v1s need to happen!

That makes sense. Im not the type of player who boasts about in-game achievements/rating. Some people think im a glad smurfing, others thing i should delete the game. At the end of the day it all depends on how stoned i am lol.

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Holy crap Batman, I can change characters now!

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And systems like soloque is why toxicity like this has become so rampant.
There is no real consequences for the actions of these people.
Once server identity died so to did the protection against toxicity did.

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Probably his own personality, that’s generally the reason why, but a lot of people have no self-reflection like that and so just blame everyone else.

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Disc priest and hunters killed arena. The disc has infinite MP and you need to be at 75 dampening before they stop instant healing to full and shielding for 10m. After thatz they also self res when killed and gain back half their mana.