They could if they look at all your posts on this topic and not just the cherry picked selection you quote yourself when advancing your motte and bailey strategy.
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Yeah, guess what these people don’t want to admit. 
S3 m+ is the easiest of TWW.
Did you play TWW S1? An m7 might have been harder back then, than a m10 is now.
The dungeons are also quite good. Only DB is bad, if you are unluck with the bugs.
No accessibility nightmare grim batols, instant deplete and pull the whole dungeon yet still have 99.08% necrotic wakes, raid dungeon theatre of pains or pure nightmare workshops finally.
This is a player created issue imo.
I would prefer if there was no mdi, so ppl wont learn garbage from there and try to use it in uncoordinated pugs and then be surprised it does not work.
You can leave even then.
In most of the cases, the vote will pass if the run does not go well and you are not on the last boss already. Nobody likes to suffer, unless they are so desperate for a weekly.
If it does not pass and its really that bad, then you can leave, just dont make a habbit of it. Use your leaves wisely.
I have only seen a tiny minority indicate that bans should be getting handed out. But you’re not being banned when you are marked as a leaver. You’re just not going to reliably get into the “good” keys you left the bad key to get into. That’s a good thing though, it makes people decide if they want to risk access to good keys, to bail on the occasional bad key.
Ya the report system needs to be fixed if they are wanting this to work.
Well M+ is always a speedrun, but we’re speeding through higher keys this season. In S2 I topped out with 14s, and I’m already timing 14s in S3 with most of the season still ahead. Heck, we’re not even max-geared yet, let alone turbo-boosted. Who knows what ++ we’ll top out at this season. Best players already timing 20s!
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So why are you unwilling to apply this to the players who should be in a +2 but get themselves into a +12? Why are you unwilling to apply this to the players who want to single pull a dungeon for a standard/beat timer key when not previously discussed with the team? Why are you unwilling to apply this to the players that are hostile and nasty to their teammates for simple mistakes?
You want the CoC book thrown at anyone who dares leave a key early, but don’t even acknowledge the players that contribute to the souring of a group leading to people wanting to leave in the first place.
To be completely honest this entire rabbit hole is a deflection. OBR is just one avenue a player can make to encourage the rest of their team to choose to abandon (or someone else to leave first). I mean honestly if I decided I was done with a key and the abandon vote failed (and I didn’t want to leave for whatever reason), the half-hearted attempt at DPS I would pull would likely be worse than if I used OBR.
Regardless of the tool chosen to annoy the team, the focus should be on the fact that each player has the tools to be able to annoy their team if they decide they don’t want to be there. And a good number of those tools will not be detectable as trolling, making after-the-fact adjudication for throwing impossible. I guess people would rather their teammates sit down on the field and pick flowers for 10 minutes before the timer expires rather than allowing everyone to cut their losses and move on with their day, despite the outcome being identical.
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Yeah my highest last season was a 13 and I already have a 14. I don’t much care past 3k since I am not title worthy, so how much I push with turbo boost depends how bored I am.
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No it doesn’t just did a vote today in arakara and the 1 no vote forced the dungeon to keep going despite it being bricked.
it takes two. And you can’t see if people voted yes.
I feel like a lot of people who stop at 3k are waiting for turbo boost now. Pugging has been more time consuming then in the past.
I don’t see that as a bad thing just a thing.
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Why would someone comment about a season they didn’t play? Duh I played season 1 it was crap and season 3 is giving off all the same vibes. 3.2k last season close to 3k already this season, just cause I can do the content, doesn’t instantly make it fun. So when 2 out of 3 seasons turn out to be bad for the majority that is an L for blizz.
Staying more for few minutes wont break you. It’s not an issue. You make it into an issue. You are okay.
You want them gone? What are you going to do instead? Just melt mobs. That’s boring.
Working as intended when doing M+ above M+10.
You’re going passed KSH. 30% of players being trimmed down to 0.1%. Working as intended.
At your M Score, you could skip M+ and just do Raid. You will live. You are not tough enough for 3000 M Rating although you still have plenty of months before the Season ends.
There it is. I found it.
Which those people that leave habitually are the minority and their already getting punished way before this system was even implemented.
Counter argument, you cant guarantee a smooth run.
You may pick up some 3k dps and you would think he will pump and knows what he is doing right? well there is some off chance that he probably bought a 3k carry.
As for other people being against this, including myself, Leavers are not a big enough problem to warrant a system being implemented, people that leave at the start of every key are getting punished since TWW season 1 and what is this suppose to actually address here?
People dont leave a key when its on track to timing, there is never in my time of running keys I had someone up and leave on a key that on track to timing.
People leave a key because its going badly, there is many other factors as to why people leave, because one or multiple individuals or the entire group is underperforming to the point that timing will be tight and depending on the severity, it wont be timed. I do try to stick it out and try to go for completion to help some people if they need some gear or vault but its just a slow crawl to the finish line then I’m going leave, I have been there and done that, I have other things to do in my life then spend in an hour plus in a 3 boss dungeon that is meant to be completed in roughly 20 minutes.
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lol you are funny, being I was 3.2k last season. So your not tough enough comment is cute. 2817 currently, and I do all this pugging, so yeah I am more than tough enough to do it. Just cause you like to cuck yourself doesn’t mean everyone likes it. Maybe look up the persons rating and stuff before making a comment that they arent good enough.
Becoz S3 Mythic+ is not a disaster. It might be DISASTER on you becoz you are not 3K right now like the rest of KSL players.
S3 feels the best M+ has felt since Legion to me.
BfA was full of 1 shots, Shadowlands was full of 1 shots. It was horrible.
Trash has been severely toned down, much more manageable.
S1 and S2 of TWW were terrible though, so hopefully Blizzard has learned something and applies this feedback to Midnights.
Higher io than you, why you even commenting about 3k when you arent even 3k nor AoTC. I am closer to 3k than you, AoTC and 2/8 mythic currently. Far better player than you.
Yeah, that’s not true. You made that up. I know you made it up because I’ve been forced into an abandon because I didn’t notice the vote go out and was counted away for it 4 to 1.