RWF - Don't turn Mental Health into a scapegoat

See that high ground is just a pedestal you’re trying to place me on. So you can take that argument and throw it in the bin. I love that you also recognize that the OP is exhibiting poor behavior but then spent so much time focusing on me because I had a not so nice way of putting it. Other people in the thread way before me were far more cordial and almost instantly with each one the OP kicked and screamed “toxic” with anyone who didn’t side with them.

If OP can’t handle mud being thrown at them then they shouldn’t have jumped into the pit and started slinging it themselves. So spare me your feelings on the subject.

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Anytime bud. :rofl:

Someone else setting a boundary over their own mental health isn’t an excuse. No matter how much you want to be mad at someone. You don’t get to dictate what anyone else’s limits are mentally or emotionally. This isn’t your business to try to condemn someone else because you don’t accept a boundary they set. You aren’t hurt by it at all. It doesn’t harm you in the slightest. You aren’t that important to them. None of us are. They are literally strangers.

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Hmmm….maybe I am confusing you with another poster who was slinging mud and claiming to be a white knight. You must admit this thread has exploded and it’s hard to keep it all straight.

Who knows….thankfully I take none of this very seriously. It’s a distraction during downtime for me.

The only actual dehumanizing that’s happening is all the people who are looking to maliciously condemn strangers because they assume because of the job they do that they should not have human responses to things. This thread is wild.

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You can be depressed or anxious without having a disorder. It happens under extreme stress for lots of people.

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It’s like you’re not even trying to understand the subject. Do you not understand that there’s a difference between a mental disorder and having mental health issues?

Do you have proof it was an excuse?

I’m going with the simple logic that

  1. they were almost 100% sure they were going to lose.
  2. since they were sure they were going to lose, there is no reason to push people farther if they were already experiencing mental/physical issues.

The thread (a lot of participants) doesn’t seem to understand the difference between mental disorders and general mental health issues. Some things are situational and are not life long issues. Not everyone who has ever been depressed has major depression. Not everyone who’s ever had anxiety has generalized anxiety disorder.

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It is a mental health issue. You do not seem to understand that temporary stress can cause these things even if there is no genetic predisposition for life long disorders. You are speaking from your ignorance. You do not understand. That is okay. You can do educate yourself and then understand.

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You could’ve just said you don’t know the definition of Mental Health. Would’ve been better than whatever you’ve been typing.

My degrees are in psychology so this thread is just :man_facepalming:

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Mine aren’t but I’ve read a couple hundred peer reviewed behavioral health studies on stuff that pertains to me and my treating physicians aren’t convinced that my major isn’t a psych type major.

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I understand. I am trying to be as neutral and not “well ACKSHUALLY” but some of these posts, man.

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Yeah if I was in the same place as you, I’d want this conversation to stop as well. :clown_face:

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Sometimes that’s needed but I don’t think anyone will be able to say anything to change the OP’s mind.

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First of all, I do agree: mental health is pushed as an excuse or escape for a LOT of things. That’s why people need to take charge of it and get a handle on it.

Second of all, I don’t agree: athletes do suffer from mental health issues, often as a result of being pushed by coaches, managers, club owners, etc. who don’t really know what they’re doing to their charges.

Professional athletes who experience high levels of stress can come down with “the twisties”–a condition where their bodies do not obey their brains, thus making peak performance impossible. Dismissing this as “failure to prepare” is a denial of the truth: most athletes spend their time doing nothing more than preparing for competition.

We don’t know near enough about the psychology of esports to understand what e-athletes go through. In truth, we know very little about the psychology of esports; there are issues of cross-cultural psychology, sports psychology, and the psychology associated with new media to consider and all of these areas are relatively new.

Dismissing a team’s concerns about mental health by simply stating they’re using it as an excuse is somewhat deplorable. Please, do a bit better.

For the record: I hold a Master of Science in psychology. My thesis examined the differences in communication styles between e-athletes as opposed to amateur players of online games. Basically, when I say “We don’t know…” that’s not an opinion; that’s a result of my engaging the scientific literature and conducting original research in the area. (My PhD is currently in progress).

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