Citation needed.
There are many different types of necromancy in a WarCraft. The Valkyr are servants of the Titan Watchers, bringing heroes to Odyn’s halls. They do not use the same dark magic as Nehr’zul and the Warlocks. Calia Menethil’s resurrection is yet another form.
This claim that “there is only one type of death magic” is an outright lie that doesn’t hold up to even a cursory glance at the lore.
I’m go on a limb here, but what if… what if they are willing to become Undead in order to orchestrate a betrayal within the Forsaken? I think that would be good writing.
Upon first being raised, a Forsaken does not have free will. It takes more concentrated magic to release an undead’s mind. Free will is one of the cornerstones of Forsaken culture, with the great capacity for both good and evil that it entails. However, some undead, especially those who die in combat or under extreme stress and are raised soon after, enter into a violent, frenzied state. Undead in this state are easily manipulated and their rage is often directed at the foes of those who raised them. After the effects wear off, if the risen corpse has not been destroyed, they are given the same ultimatum that other Forsaken are offered: join the Dark Lady or return to the grave. Psychological pressure can also be used to turn freshly-raised undead to the side of the Forsaken instead of the one of their former allies. Once sufficient duty has been given, all it takes to be released from Sylvanas’ command is a respectful asking. Though she demands loyalty, she would not hold her agents in thrall.
Blizzard’s lore consistency when it comes to necromancy has been really, really bad this expansion.
I’m happy to see Horde get yet another RP choice in Sira’s death.
But… where’s the parity for such RP on the Alliance?
I like to think that they are willingly doing this to kill Sylvanas. That’s my theory anyway
You might want to do a start forsaken. They changed in game lore. now they have free will. No longer threaten to join her. Now given a choice. Leave or join the dark lady. Gone is the day they kill them. yeah dev love redesigning things and ignore book lore(![:eyes:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/eyes.png?v=6" ":eyes:")
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We can choose whether the Horde kills us now or later.
What’s the RP choice?
If it’s not a “this storyline sucks I don’t want to participate in a Forsaken Fan Fiction”, I don’t care.
But that’s what it is.
You can choose not to execute and raise Sira under Nathanos’ orders.
The other choice is to choose to work against Sylvanas together with Saurfang.
That isn’t even close to enough for me.
Saurfang needs to meet a humiliating end too. Like becoming the Alliance’s lap dog Warchief.
God, the forums will burn.
Not exactly. Those Nelfs weren’t raised by Val’kyr to be free willed. They were raised to serve the Dark Lady. The lore didn’t change. Those two were recently brutally murdered. That can be used to their advantage to raise basically brainwashed.
Don’t just read the first sentence. This isn’t as black and white as you think it is.
yes i did. just stating they changed starting zone. It no longer based on that fact.
Second point. let be clear she does not have the power to mind control anyone. Look at video where she has to torture someone first to break them. I am surprise people keep saying this. As it not based on fact. If like i can look up and post video. it not hard to find.
The starting zone was changed ages ago. The lore I posted isn’t irrelevant. People just refuse to understand its depth and complexity.
OK explain to me. Cause no where in game or in book does she have they power you claim in post.
This answer was given wafter Cata, during a creative Q&A on the story forums by Metzen and Afrasiabi:
Why do some Alliance soldiers raised by the Forsaken immediately become loyal to the Forsaken while others do not? Are they being mind controlled? If so, by whom - Sylvanas or the Val’kyr? How does this relate to the fact that the Forsaken cultural identity is based on their free will and rebellion against the Lich King?
Free will is one of the cornerstones of Forsaken culture, with the great capacity for both good and evil that it entails. However, some undead, especially those who die in combat or under extreme stress and are raised soon after, enter into a violent, frenzied state. Undead in this state are easily manipulated.
They should have just left it as Sylvanas forcing her will on them, though they could still do that I guess if they say only some of the Night Elves were capable of resisting.
Like i said need to go and do a forsaken. they have recently changed the lore. It is no longer the case. Just go and make one and see for your self. It takes about a 5 minutes. That a old quote that no longer in game. That what i have been trying to tell you.
Good thing we have High Elves to look forward to.
It is technically an RP choice, a weak one, but still some choice.
I think it just makes the Horde character look like a cowardly hypocrite since they went along with all the other stuff until then. So yeah, it’s junk, but for “RP” it shows your character’s loyalty is starting to waver…or they remember Sira from Legion and don’t want to kill her…or they’re just sick of Nathanos’ orders.