Rsham tier design

Whoever @ blizzard has been in charge of rsham design since whenever that absolute garbage chain heal spam spec came in to play needs to be fired man. (tidebringer)

I do not want to cast chain heal in arena, stop. Why does every single expansion have to have some point where shamans are supposed to just spam chain heal. Idk maybe just me

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I think whomever designed some of these new tier sets at Blizzard are probably the same people that also designed the infrastructure and reporting system for their Human Resources Department.

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That was… damn.

Turns out blizz employees / pet battle experts don’t have much of a grasp on class / spec design unfortunately

i think the resto tier feels fine in PvE, but thats the problem tier is posing right now. its only balanced for PvE, which makes certain specs substantially worse, and some grossly op with 4 piece in PvP. at this point id rather we just turn off tier bonus in PvP

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If you think for 1sec that any of the tier set were designed with pvp in mind you should be slapped in the face hard with a metal chair.

They’ll all designed for PvE only.

I mean again if you think this tier has anythjing to do with PvP, you’re crazy. Doesn’t even have anthing to do with mythic+

Very clearly designed around raids

So then don’t use chain heal?

I’m a little confused. If you don’t like the spell that much just don’t use it. There are other builds you can play.

Are you guys trying to say I shouldn’t have been pressing shadow bolt as affliction in pvp all expansion?

You think these people play the same game as you??

I understand these things, my main issue is that for example w/ret and dh, your tier directly ties in to just your regular rotation in arena and pve. Dh 2 piece is just a flat increase on a regular pvp rotational ability.

Rsham’s is a button that you just don’t see pressed in arena, for good reason. Rsham in arena vs Rsham in pve are so insanely different that this tier just actually sucks for rsham.

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This is also a good point, idk why the effects are so insane. Compare Rsham 2/4 piece to like… hpal?

Hpal was a desperate attempt at some Necrolord lover Dev to make Necrolord work as that covenant has been dog tier all expansion long.

It’s extremely clunky and unfun to actually play in PvP. =/



The tier sets were designed for PvE and hard fisted into PvP under the guise of “something is better than nothing.”

And in most cases of doing this, no… no it’s not. :frowning:



Blizzard has extreme time management, planning and forethought, and leadership problems.



They do not have the time or resources to make 36 specs have a PvE and PvP set bonus (though they could in the past with a smaller team? kekW)

So now… they are spending time and resources of nerfing each tier in PvP anyways, lol.

Additionally, they add borrowed power from Tier bonuses while spells, talents, conduits and soulbinds are already nerfed in PvP, just shifting the problem from one thing to the next. lol

The game is just such a mess and in desperate need of a complete overhaul. =/

Idk 2 pc sucks pretty bad for rsham in m+. I had 28 stacks and base 24% crit and chain heal still didn’t crit. Maybe 4pc will make it a lot better but 2pc is basically useless for 5mans.

Really wish they’d delete any honor talents and bonus effects related to chain heal for the spec. Its so unfun to play chain heal in a pvp setting. A 2pc that augmented our healing totems’ heal value and a 4pc that made our healing waves/surges more effective for a certain period of time would have been a LOT more interactive.

Try having the MW tier set. Even worse.

Every mw keeps saying this and I’m pretty sure it’s not as bad as they all think.

Is it ideal? No, but like 450 raw healing added to every tiny heal you shoot out is kinda big especially with some of the sustained dmg certain classes have from tier

So you take the most mobile healer. (The only way we stay alive) and you say here stay in this circle and don’t move.

Sounds counter to what the class is supposed to do. Also my throughput needs no buff.

Position urself better, mw isn’t a good kill target for a lot of the comps they play

I am a multi time 2.7k exp rsham. The spec was garbage in SL season 1 because damage was so high and you lack defensive CDs. Better in s2 because gear and certain comps were able to make up for your defensive weakness, and trash again in s3 because damage is so high and you lack defensives for teammates. Earthen wall stops 800-900 damage per attack which is nothing when you get hit for 25k regularly. Spirit link can be a clutch save but once again doesn’t reduce any damage, only distributes it amongst teammates. Often times WW monks, dh, and sometimes DKs just kill your team through it.

Shaman needs a huge throughput increase on casted single target heals. The set bonus sucks.

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