You claim bias but you are currently bias against rogues. Pot meets kettle.
Like I said play a rogue then come back and give us feedback if it’s so easy and OP
I didn’t say any of that, please don’t put words in my mouth
i started playing wow on a rogue, they were OP back then and not much has changed in that department.
but again, each of us has our own bias, no two people share the same perception of the world. if you vanish a 1000 times without incident, your brain won’t really commit that to memory, but the one time you could have won and it bugged out leading to your death, well your brain won’t let you forget that one.
the reality is that vanish has always been buggy like this, as far back as patch 1.0. if you can’t get past that try a different class. but it is not an excuse to claim rogues are not OP.
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Oh I know, I’m largely in agreement
It’s just a humorous argument given the historic relationship of the two.
What a rotten divorce!
A simple way to find out is ask other rogues, I doubt you would take their word serious as it would conflict against the anti rogue narrative.
Your issue is a skill issue not a class issue.
not really and you are deflecting, why would i ask a rogue if rogues are op or not? they are going to give a biased answer. they will all deny being OP just like they did back in vanilla when they were op with 2 buttons.
it would be better to ask everyone who isn’t a rogue if they think rogues are OP, and the answer is usually yes.
edit: why would you ask the wolves if eating sheep is wrong? ask the sheep.
Are you familiar with irony
I wonder if rogues can still kill people naked with two fish equipped like they could in vanilla through WotLK.
Im not deflecting at all, you just won’t beleive anything that doesn’t fit your agenda here. Rogues are fine. You want them nerf to you can beat them. That’s not a class issue that’s a skill issue
as in a hunter complaining about Rogues utility?
aw yes, the anti-rogue agenda. get real dude. calling an OP class OP does not mean you have an agenda.
So whenever someone tries to give you pointers or explain to you something about rogues, if it’s doesnt fall in line with “nerf rogues cause their OP” that’s not constructive criticism.
I think I am done here thanks
funny how rogues were not OP in legion, but now all of a sudden they are, we got massive numbers and class changes as well as the loss of templates. its not impossible that some classes are now more OP than before. rogues were fine in legion but are OP now.
if you can’t recognize your own OPness, perhaps there is a skill issue there.
You mean exactly how Blood DKs are over saturated right now?
sure, blood is way over-represented in M+, blizz is nerfing them in 8.1.
do i agree with this? no. i think they should buff the other tanks instead, but i do recognize the issue.
You weren’t going to bring this up unless someone else pointed it out. I’ve recognized rogue high representation but that has nothing to do with OPness but with fotm compositions. And the same data you want to use shows exactly that.
It dependent on person to person.
RMP is FOTM? which month? oh right, all of them.
but also, Blood is OP in M+ and guess what, its getting nerfed. so that means rogues do in fact need a nerf.
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Rogues are getting nerf, this is how I know you have an agenda because you didn’t bother read up on them.
Sub has been nerf since the start of BFA, they are removing PvP talents and traits were too good.
Blood nerf isn’t even that substantial as prediction Indicating that they’ll still be the go to tanks.
And funny enough DKs are getting a ton of buffs. Funny no mention of that?
But no let’s nerf rogues into the ground
because DKs aren’t OP, rogues are. you’re trying to make some apples to oranges comparison and trying to throw it back on me. once again, DKs are not OP in pvp, rogues are, and you have little to argue against that fact.
You just said you don’t advocate for nerfs but just contradicted yourself by asking for nerfs. Stop talking from both sides of your mouth.