was doing arena skirmish for weekly quest, ended up with soloing a rogue, rogue shadow meld with 10% health and went into stealth.
change eye mechanic in arena, make it pop sooner, make it last longer, also why does the player need to linger there for a second to obtain it? like what’s the point of that?
rogue can easily LOS, step sap, gouge, blind, full kidney, like there’s a million ways for them to reset, almost impossible for any class to beat them 1v1 in arena.
PS: night elf sub rogue, sap/blind for eye to finish, of course he can regen to full while in stealth, and wait for his sub one shot CDs to come back up.
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Yeah, I mean most classes won’t beat the king of 1v1s. It just be like that.
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This has been true since the invention of rogue self healing. Nothing new. Well, accurate not true. Rogues can lose 1v1’s it’s just rare/class dependent.
Fun fact in TBCC, there were nerds who’d bring healing maces with high spirit, in the off chance they ended in a 1v1 so when they were waiting in stealth they’d regen health faster.
I wish I was joking.
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The amount of times I had to 1v1 in TBC was nuts. Bags full of bandages.
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Tactical sit in arena gameplay
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yeah it’s a bit unfortunate if you come down to a 1v1 with a rogue in arena, you should just afk out, you cannot win due to their modern kit . class should have 0 effective selfheals or the eye should be better in late game. it rarely happens but when it does its pretty much gg if they get a re-stealth. thankfully 2s rating doesn’t matter, and if you don’t q that bracket at all you actually win. let them fight all the other rogue/disc/rdruids.
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Lots of people also grab the eye and forget that it increases damage you take as well. Lots of rogues will literally wait for you to grab it and open for more burst
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We have major weaknesses in group fights and go down easier than anyone else if we get targeted and don’t vanish. The flip side is that we are king when it comes to 1v1. It’s how the class is designed. If we weren’t strong 1v1 the class would be dead, which I’m sure a lot of people would love but it’s not going to happen.
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Feint, evasion, cloak, kidney, gouge, vanish, blind, duel, limited self heals
I wish it was true that with the amount of control rogues have that they were easy to kill if targeted.
The insane damage assassination does rn to top it off is just a super tilter
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How bout’ No.
How bout’ No.
I would call rogues the meme of 1v1 long before the King. King is a glorifying statement, rogues will open on you 25 times messing up every single one in 1v1 in arena and still be able to sprint away and stealth, regen to full before you can even heal to full in dampening.
Not kings, memes.
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Yea we have some powerful defensives but many of them don’t help when you’re in a group fight. Evasion isn’t gonna help against the caster that has you targeted, cloak isn’t gonna help against the warriors, gouge/stun etc are only going to protect you against 1 target and are on dr etc. we have tools to get away but the point is if we’re targeted in a group we are very vulnerable.
And yea assa is bonkers.
the #1 reason why rogues are so good in duels is because of stealth. and then because of vanish. hard to beat someone who will always get the opener on you. and who can reset when he’s not winning.
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Bad rogues can be memes very true.
Yea it’s having the advantage, as soon as that is taken away it’s a different story. Bleed us and we’re sitting ducks.
No but cloak will
No but evasion will
Like ???
You have access to dance, kidney one target and endlessly cheap another while blinding a third.
Not really, rogue literally stood in and boxed against hero cleave in the awc and was p much fine.
The only thing rogue has to run from rn is another rogue or an elemental shaman who accidentally procced Pompei on his ass
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I mean monk has the same problem
You doing it wrong bro.
If you get a re as assa it’s literally over.
Wait till DR, mfd Kidney, garrote, 5 point rupture, run back to the pillar, get a re.
They just perma die to bleeds while you run for Re’s and wait for MFD again.
You never have to press a defensive because they just can’t play the game. Perma snared and by the time they get out of the kidney they have a full row of bleeds, are waddling @ 20% run speed, and you’re already LoS on the pillar.
You literally cannot llose. If they ever trinket kidney you insta blind / sap them and wait for Kidney DR again.
You 100% cannot lose 1v1’s as assa in to anything else that isn’t a rogue.
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I might get hate for saying this as a rogue, but eye should just pull anything in stealth out of stealth for x amount of seconds.
It’s easy just to line most classes even when they do have eyes up, and against a good rogue it probably won’t matter, but still. Might be selling out ferals though idk, I’ve never seen anyone complain about them
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an argument dating back to TBC about the one class specifically tailored to 1v1, i mean, come on…
Eye should also just show name plate. That it doesn’t is stupid as hell.
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