Removing dampening from 3 for the first 5 minutes and not starting at 20% damp in 2s will most definitely cause longer games.
Shadowstep kidney… Can’t react to that…

Shadowstep kidney… Can’t react to that…
You’re gonna have to figure it out. Once I realized how to deal with rogues, they became a subpar enemy. If I got caught with my pants down, that was on me. D stance, Die-by, Ignore Pain, Rally+pot, Disarm. We have plenty of tools to deal with them.
I understand the point.
I personally think all they did was raise the sub skill floor again, which sub use to be high risk high reward, now it is just reward.
Would rather see them excell at the top end than act as a wall for lower players trying to learn not to get globaled, but also allowing rogues to accell at the top, tho RMP always makes its way to one of the top teams regardless of how viable each class is sepetate.
Regardless I hope we find a middle ground btwn globaling and 50% damp. I personally love the pace but I’m just a trashcan player who does mostly skirms, bgs, and random 2/3s with friends and guildies regardless of comp.
All I see here is a name dropping nobody. No-one cares who you know and spoke too about these nerfs. You have hardly qued this season. You know nothing.
This doesn’t matter if I play a ton or not, (Also 1800 is like 2100 last season so I’m fine since you fight glads) What I say matters not because of my rating but because gladiators and rank ones are saying these. They know more about the game then you ever will. So get on your main and stop hiding behind your level 10 druid…
that’s my fear. rogue may be slightly over tuned now, but what happens in another 1-2 weeks when everyone has more and more powerful gear and HP. if you don’t kill someone with all of your cooldowns, you literally are doing nothing
Lol sure, we believe they would talk to you. Are you the arena forum reporter? Bringing us exclusive input from the “PROS”
I’ve seen a great disturbance in the Forums, as if millions of Rogues suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
I agree , nerf sub.
To quote darth Vader when he is first revealed “deeeeeeez nutz”
Is it possible that all 3 of rogue, mage, and warlocks will be just okay this season? I don’t know if that’s good or bad for the game but it’d be a first I would think

In 3s, you barely even saw them higher up because arms, ret, ww, etc are better.
PvP at no point should be balanced around 3’s literally one of the smallest parts of PvP and the least played bracket. 2’s is way more popular. Most PvP players don’t even do Arena and Rogues need to be balanced outside of Arena in the more popular aspects of the PvP that are heavily played.
The nerfs were completely warranted so Rogue isn’t stacked in RBGs, BGs and WPvP. Also people like to duel and they should be somewhat fair. Arena isn’t everything. Thee End.
You’re just trolling lol,
How are we in here saying the nerfs were too much, when we haven’t even seen them on live servers yet? Just because warriors and ww are busted as well (just in a different way) doesn’t mean we can’t tone down sub’s ability to 2 shot people. What kind of logic is that?

At this point i feel like they dont even have any poeple working on PVP balance.
This.
Everybody I play with knows exactly what the issues are with balancing, just from playing the game.
Maybe they cannot balance it because the people or intern on it DOES NOT play the game and makes decisions off forum posts and meta data.
No, I thought you were trolling with all the name dropping.
Well, its a never ending cycle when it comes to class balances.
There will always be complaints
There will always be class changes
Just be patient…they’ll change again.

In 3s, you barely even saw them higher up because arms, ret, ww, etc are better.
Rogues are the top represented dps in 3v3. I’m calling BS on this. Not saying rogues shouldn’t be getting buffed after these nerfs but still calling the statement bs.
top represented dps, but not above 2200. thats great that all the fotm rogues tried to go into 3s and do the one shot, then got countered and couldnt climb by people who actually learned to respect cds.

top represented dps, but not above 2200.
Top represented dps 2200+ across NA and EU.