If we were doing Tolkien accurate Lord of the Rings, Frodo and Sam would be canonically gay and y’all would be real mad about that
Murdered his flesh and blood over a ring, and then spent years eating sentient beings while coveting the ring.
Who at the end of it all, didn’t redeem himself, and in fact was killed by his own evil nature. What did I miss?
First few episodes are rough, but if you can make it past that it has some of the best fight choreography in the entire franchise in my opinion.
Story and dialogue are just kinda there, but I mean it’s Star Wars, not Christopher Nolan lol
That is hilarious!! And true
Star Wars The Phantom Menace is the best film ever made. The scenes featuring Jar Jar Binks and Anakin are the most entertaining. It is only surpassed by Episode 2: Attack of the Clones. Anakin and Padme’s dialogue is Shakespearean in scope.
It’s tons of shows lately. Even games, like WoW sometimes (Shadowlands), they don’t seem to revere the old lore as much as they should- it’s the foundation after all.
Star Wars as a whole lately, Lord of the Rings as seen here, Game of Thrones and GoT: HoTD (to some degree), and many more.
Not respecting the original material just pisses off fans of any medium.
The worst thing you can do is make fans apathetic and no longer interested in something because it’s changed too much from what it originally was.
At that point, if it’s gonna be super-majorly different, I’d make a whole new IP entirely.
I feel like folks who produce these things are simply disconnected from the fans and what they’d like to see, for the most part.
Where’s Celeborn by the way? I noticed the Rings of Power made him absent, possibly dead, which might be a problem.
Quite a bit, apparently.
changing lore for a modern audience is fine when it works, when it adds to the story, fleshes out a character, removes obvious racial stuff, etc. the changes I saw in my time with the show seemed like bad writing to me. I feel like there was some miscasting as well.
I’m not a huge LOTR nerd, i read the books when I was in high school and love the first trilogy. Id say my biggest connection to the lore is from D&D. Tolkien, created fantasy as we know it, and D&D ran with it. decades of playing that have instilled certain expectation when seeing a LOTR series
Except you can Google where Tolkien in fact mentions Orcs having females and children…
Insert Token Black Elf and Female Dwarf Here.
All the parts between Emyn Muil to where Faramir captures Frodo, we see Gollum slowly return to his, for lack of a better word, humanity. His good natured side.
Just because Gollum ultimately succumbs to evil and dies because of it, doesn’t mean he didn’t show growth or become sympathetic.
Oh you’re just an awful person. That does clear things up.
Exactly… Glorfindel, Luthien was LITERALLY half maiar !!!, Acthelion.
Fingolfin fought Morgoth himself. Galadriel come’s from royalty.
Show me the lie. How does Rings of Power have a single black Elf and female Dwarf and the rest are all, as Tolkein had made them, from the British Isles?
Except throughout this entire thread the people complaining about shows and movies not being “lore accurate” have been proven wrong that Peter Jackson also didn’t stick to the lore, and that many people don’t actually know what the lore is, they just think do.
We all know what you’re really mad about, just be brave and say it with your whole chest.
If you knew anything about me, you’d know I’m pro-diversity lol.
I enjoy Faerin as a character.
Stop being angry all the time, please. Your heart is gonna stop beating due to blood pressure problems.
Nah bud, that’s the end of my engagement with you.
You wanna talk about production quality or writing, we can talk. You want to whine about black people and women existing in fantasy, you’re just bigoted trash that’s worth nobody’s time.
Brown and black people also like lord of the rings and Tolkien, maybe some of them wanted to be in the film. It’s really not that big of a deal.
That’s good, but then there’s this guy: