I am logging out then in which manually triggered an update. So hoping this is one of the thigns fixed.
Good to know! I may jump back to Venthyr (where I started initially) or Kyrian (where I was for a bit)
That being saidâŚit would be REALLY cool if you guys could just keep it to where we can switch back and forth freely. Juuuuust saying 
After this debacle, I would go with what you think you probably want to be for the remainder of the patch.
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Yeah, thatâs what Iâm pondering now. I really like the Kyrian faction (as a concept anyway), but Condemn is stupidly fun
Just updating others who may be in the same boat.
Since before Tuesday the night fae wree âdebatingâ to take me back or not.
AFter a full logout and log back in JUST NOW, talking to the fae initiates dialogue that is like I want to join them for the first time. The just now is in caps to stress you need to force an update to your game.
I will update with my progress. On one hand this sounds like a workaround. On the other hand⌠if my fae progress has been erased⌠I am screwed.
Regarding Covenants, I wish the only âpowerâ they provided was a signature ability. I do love my Weapons of Order, but it shouldnât exist. Itâs just one more variable to complicate the delicate formula that is balance. Everything else should be story and cosmetic. If somebody wants to switch to another one they should be able to at any time.
Regarding Soulbinds, I wish they were combat buddies that I could go adventuring with. I never get to see them and theyâre supposed to be linked to me! All those powers are so confusing and unnecessary too.
Regarding Conduits, I wish they were upgrades to your spells and abilities you got through leveling. We got ten more levels and only two of them gave us anything.
And while Iâm on a roll, I wish legendaries were new talent rows at 55 and 60.
Thanks and have a wonderful day.
i made the switch one time was 42 necro to venthyr was 40 i am 40
but the good news is the 1k anima and the 20 souls are up and tomorrow a new assault will happen and be 2 renown behind also a calling gave me renown
for the love of god please go live already
Welcome to WoW. Where you pay to be punished, limited, and restricted.
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About time! WOOT!
I can confirm I was able to switch Venthyr just now. Betrayal is gone!
NOW BLIZZ, PLEASE!! MAKE THIS PERMANENT!
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I also didnât have any issues swapping back to fae. The Dialogue can be a bit alarming - it sounds like Iâd never been with them so it gives a worry of having all my stuff missing. But everything was just how I left it. Just 2 renown to make up which was super fast.
i know the 1k anima or some callings and boom also do not forget to pick the body guard i for got the name atm
The lack of unity with covenants reminds me of two factions that always seem to unify when crap hits the fan.
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I managed to switch back to NF but it now says I have completed 8/9 for the campaign, apparently everything is done except for âFor queen and groveâ the first cov quest
is queen and grove the last one?
if so then its the special quest like the venthyr renown 55ish
Itâs the first one in the campaign, which has me confused as to how its not done but the 8 that follow are
Can we like⌠just remove betrayer entirely?
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Covenant system has really hurt shadowlands. So many stories of abandonment. And the exodus of players to FF14.
My own experience:
Started as Kyrian Hunter. I do PvP and mythic plus, and AOTC. Kyrian was a solid choice that could do reasonable across all 3 (night fae was better in m+ but whatever).
Then 9.0.5 comes out. Venthyr becomes the meta for PvP after a HUGE balance change to flayed shot. So I had to give up my rank 3 travel network and all my champions in adventure table system and start from scratch with my buildings etc⌠2 weeks later I am PvPing 200 rating higher, but im significantly worse in mythic plus. Very annoying. Now 9.1 is making Kyrian the best for all 3 hunter specs and before this betrayer hotfix announcement I was not looking forward to 2 weeks of pointless time gating to swap back. Also I am 42 renown and know that I will go back to 40 renown when I swap back to Kyrian, which will put me forever behind on renown since the catchup only goes to renown 40 and I have already burned my 2 weekly quests.
Then comes the story of my druid. PvP druid alt as feral, Night Fae. 9.0.5 comes around and Necrolord is now bis for feral druid. Having suffered a covenant change on my hunter already I have 2 choices: Suffer losing rank 3 travel network AGAIN and all my followers AGAIN⌠or just quit PvP and stop playing my druid.
I stopped playing my druid. This punitive covenant system is disgusting waste of time and I am not going to feed their time played metrics redoing everything every time they patch something. It make no sense lore wise and just spits in our face with no respect for our time.
I actually unsubbed and gave this feedback, and only have about 200k gold left for maybe one more month of play time via wow token. They need to stop being such arrogant pricks and pull the ripcord.
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I would welcome this one-time reset of âBetrayerâ status to change Covenant if I could get some bonus animas just to boost some Sanctum Upgrades of the new covenant becoz I am maxâd out from the last Covenant. Also⌠need some bonus Renowns. I may not reach Renown 80 at the end of the season if I restart from Renown 0.