Returning player with an immediate bad experience

They also encourage people to help new players with the mentor system and DPS meters are against TOS. I know players still sneak to use them but announcing it and/or putting other players down is very frowned upon.

I joined a que for a random boss last week, it had a time limit of I think 80 minutes. We wiped repeatedly. No one left. No one got mad. Everyone was being very helpful and explaining mechanics. We got farther each pull but we never cleared it. The fight ended because we ran out of time with everyone saying good night, gg and take care. That experience was so much more enjoyable than killing H N’zoth after hours of people getting kicked and raging everywhere for some loot.

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Yep, can be pretty bad. Even if you don’t draw the negativity yourself, there’s nothing fun about watching others get slammed and kicked over stupid stuff. I found an active guild and now only run with them for challenging content. Pugging is a miserable experience not worth the rewards.

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I never understood why people did this. Nobody ever finds out it was my first time in a dungeon until the achievement pops up.

Maybe don’t do group play if you are behind and can’t contribute? There really isn’t enough details in your post to even tell what happened.

It depends on what dungeon or raid he was doing.

Doesn’t matter to me. I still keep my mouth shut and wing it.

Believe me alot of people are not returning and not buying SL.

Oh, I thought you were referring to the kicking someone for saying it is their first time in there.

I tend to also keep my mouth shut about that as well, i.e. being my first time. As long as you aren’t doing content over your head it mostly isn’t necessary.

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Exactly. Most dungeons are all the same. Don’t stand in the bad, don’t stand in front of the boss, etc.

I just started tanking a few days ago, I usually tell them that it’s my first time right before pulling the last boss, but they’ve been pretty nice about it telling me that I was doing great.

Although I’m aware that it’s not true at all and I’m doing very badly, because mobs always run away from me and I’m always running all over the place, chasing the ones that got away.

I agree that is one of the many reasons i play alone and also doesn’t help me hearing raid leaders yelling at people for small mistakes.

But you got to level 47 in classic…that version of wow is a lot worse…like…really bad. I’m shocked you had a worse experience in retail than classic.

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I take it back, a dps with full Timewraped gears was acting as a tank and pulling every pack of mobs, so I switch to Frost spec and let him be the tank, and I got called a backside by the healer.

In the end that dps pulled the last boss without waiting even after the healer says OOM, I wonder if that healer realized who’s the actual backside now.

I’m not new to classic. Also classic has the benefit of people not having easy access to groups. So if I’m tanking or healing and someone starts being nasty, telling them to go seek a different group if they don’t like what X player is doing tends to actually have an effect.
They might be more ready to be toxic, but they are also more manageable when they are.

Also helps that I’m experienced with tanking and healing in MMOs. Complaints are rarely against me. When a different person than the one the toxic player is targeting tells them to shut it, they are more likely to listen.

That’s just my personal experience with classic. And I’m aware that’s not the normal experience.

I’ve had my fair share of abysmal parties in classic too. 0 respect for tanks in an all mage party for example. Which, to be fair, I’m essentially just a puller in.

For what it helps, Blizzard is looking to implement ‘new player guides’ with the expansion - people who volunteer to help new players out.

Sorry OP. I agree with everything you said. It’s why I don’t run group content in this game anymore. I enjoy it in FF14 more than I ever did in WoW, honestly.

Yup. The playerbase in WoW is big time trash. I just don’t see it as a mmo anymore really.

I have learned to just laugh in peoples faces/aggravate them more (for example I told some idiot I was glad we lost a BG and I was glad I wasted his time when he was ranting to me in tells about only having a 440 GS a few months back).

Its the main way I survive playing this game currently. I enjoy it when the trash human being gets mad at me, and I am glad I ruined their day while they are trying to ruin mine.

Not sure what Blizzard can do about it though. I find their games have always attracted a certain type of person that is just foul in general. I just go with the flow and if some idiot dares open his mouth, I make him pay for it.

Your experience is a perfect description of why I much prefer to play solo except for an occasional LFD/LFR if I need to complete a quest or need a certain item.

A good Guild can be fun but the wrong one can be more drama than Group Finder which is why I have 2 personal Guilds for myself and my Alts.

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Just be glad you’re not Alliance on top of all that.

OP, I’m sorry your experience was so terrible. It’s experiences like yours that have convinced me to only progress through content with my guild, who are absolutely amazing people.

I hope you consider finding your “home” guild before leaving entirely. It may change your mind.