Retail WoW feels like a single player game

I just checked to be sure because my last experience looking was during Covid and, yeah, there are plenty of guilds under:

Focus: social and leveling

But you have to look at the amount of guildies they sport and read the added text to get an idea of how viable they are for what you are looking for.

ETA: Clubfu would be the first one I would contact for more information. Krowd Kontrol also looks good.

The forums are about as social as i get. All the people in game might as well be npcs to me for how often any of us talk in game whenever the game requires people to be grouped.

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I have to wonder what kind of effort are most of up putting into being social in WoW? I know I put little to no effort in trying to talk to people or find new WoW friends. The game plays like a single player game because I treat it like a single player game.

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Part of it is the fact that low levels can no longer use the group finder to put together groups to do harder quests, some of which are very difficult at level. A leveler who can’t solo a quest where they’re trying to deal with mechanics, a boss mob, and adds may just have to abandon the zone if that quest is gating other quests ahead.

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I never used a group finder in vanilla. we just used chat or found people in the area, no sharding


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People are awful. The less you have to talk to them, the better.

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Yes, you are wrong. There are tons of people in Retail, and I have had tons of really interesting convos with people waiting on rares, or just doing quests etc.

This sounds like a “classic is better than retail” post.

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Yes

You’re gonna have to look for a guild and join their discord. It’s unfortunate but most of the socializing is done on discord.

Once I got over my distaste for discord I started making friends again.

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Well, in the wrong server.

Moon Gaurd is chatty, some other big servers are also chatty,. Low and medium pop servers seem to be quiet, depending on the high, full pop servers people will talk.

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Did you try dungeons in retail theres people there too like classic lol

If it ain’t Sandbox, it’s just a bad single-player game with a forced online connection, bogged down by useless multiplayer crud.

Which is most Live-Service Games.

Considering that one mount makes more money than an entire game, you can see why Blizzard abandoned the ARPG genre with Diablo III.

I suspect that the next Starcraft game won’t even be an RTS.

Have you heard of Diablo 4?

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It used to, but the features that the devs introduced to stop doing that are popular with a very vocal crowd.

What a cringe mindset to have while playing an mmo.

when u right u right
more ai please

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Main reasons you don’t see anyone is:

A. The amount of zones/expansions you could possibly be leveling in. Game is twenty years old.

B. The amount of phasing. It’s the dumbest thing I see. I’ve watched random players in zones just disappear all because I didn’t complete a quest in Kun-Lai back in 2009(I’m exaggerating but you get the point). They really need to do something about that

This. By mid season, either version of wow
many are on daily maintenance mode. We are probably alting it. I personally have char days. its this char today I use. Tomorrow
it could be another char.

Discord
all are 1. 1 name for many chars. I still see comms traffic with friends. Traffic that can be missed on say hunter play days.

I started playing before LFG, cross realm, and all the other things ‘destroying the social fabric of WoW’ so I can confidently say WoW has never had ‘community’. WoW’s ‘community’ back then was simply being held hostage to whatever petty drama ruled your server. I don’t miss it, not one bit.

I much prefer the way things are now where my guild is my community and we can just queue for stuff as-needed. I’ve also made more and better friends using the new LFG tools than I ever did spamming Org or Stormwind. If anything WoW is more social for me now than it ever was back then.

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This is what happens when a game has vertical progression and put the main content in instances. Old stuff and outside becomes a barren wasteland.

Without a guild the game really is depressing. It honestly feels like a hub based dungeon and bg grinder. One of the reasons why I’m quitting. I had some great times in vanilla-cata but it’s been kind of a drag ever since then. surprised it took me this long to quit. I expect more from an mmo. I want to feel like interactions actually matter and are not so toxic.

I wish a developer would come along and show us what it’s like to have a real MMO experience. Not with this aggressive sharding bs.

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There’s your problem. Retail is endgame focused. You haven’t even started playing the game if you are level 58.

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