If I was to see you in Org or say TB one day in retail one day . I could interact with you maybe join a group but my ability to trade with you outside of a group would be limited and if either of us were to post in trade neither would see what the other said because trade is server or connected server specific.
Retail everyone you run into and depending where you are at any time may determine what layer you are on will be on the same exact server as you in classic. You might be in an area with another guildie and not see them because of being on different layers but you are still on the same server.
Even with all the people from BH coming ED was still lively and doing well. Legion I feel was the catalyst when WPvP was players 1 shotting raids and CRZ/Phasing being pushed even harder than before.
bro log in to retail and click the pop tab to show the highest pop servers you will be shocked its simple log in then do that and you will see 20 servers high to full.
then log in to classic wow and do the same thing you will only see a few server high pop the rest are medium the census is in the server pop.
Yerp; and now with added warmode on/off mode servers are further layered. Iâve actually had to join friends groups to trade with them because we were on different layers. Grouping puts you on the same layer. I dunno why anyone would think layering, a retail-system, would not be present in retail.
The whole reason people donât want it in classic is itâs a retail system that wasnât present during classic and âno changesâ
I usually agree with you, Wuzeh, but counting the number of servers that are full/high pop is not an anecdote. Although I do understand the point you are trying to convey. You cannot appropriately truthfully compare actual populations just based on that in a retail vs classic debate.
Irrelevant, as Watcher himself has admitted âFullâ is relative to the current actives in the most populated server at the time, not to their actual capacity.
All it means when you see a ton of full/high servers is that theyâre each around the same current active players as Hyjal or A52. Herod or Faerlina likely has more people ingame than most of those combined. Saying retail is healthy right now because servers are marked full is like saying people are smart because about half of them are over 100 IQ. Like, yes, thatâs how the measurement works.
If your zone is getting sharded with other servers (and probably still a ghost town), youâre nowhere near capacity. I see more people wandering around any given zone on Atiesh â which isnât even one of the big ones â than I do across multiple shards in Nazjatar retail.
And if we were to wait a few hours, the populations will explode and I will be able to point at that, using the same logic youâre using here, to show that Classic is doing better than retail.
It means nothing at all in the grand scheme of things.
I understand where youâre going with your argument but the reason no one will listen is itâs demonstrably a false pretense. The way the servers are labeled is different in classic and retail.
in retail servers are on a relative scale. âfull serversâ are basically just those with the most concurrent players -right now- and the algorithm bases the population averages on that; so a medium is only medium relative to what a full is, and a high is only high relative to what the current full populations concurrent realm populations are.
They altered this in classic to be more reflective of -just that servers pop- and not reactive to other servers. So it is just a reflection of capacity on the total allowed into the server. Which is why when a server is full on classic it gets a queue, Thatâs not the case on retail. Since full is just a reflection of its status relative to other servers.
Thatâs the best I can explain it based on my understanding of it. Take of it what you will. Thatâs also why people are not taking your argument seriously, because the metrics are different.
Also retail has many-linked-servers; so some servers are high based on their 4-5 servers total populations and not on their own merit. You could probably cut retail servers in half right now to get a more accurate read.