Ret suggestions for 9.0

[Fylerz-thrall (Fylerz)]

God threads like these where people think they are making ret suggestions then go to speak about game design things that should apply to all classes… they would never do that to be honest

@Piknim-emerald-dream

(14) Delete Rebuke from the class. A few other specs in the game could stand to lose their interrupt as well. Prot will be fine without it with their Avenger’s Shield spam.

Lol no. Ret weakness is caster, we have no ms effects. Removing kick means we can’t kill any healer and we’re back at caster literally casting everything in our face without punishing them ever. That’s just plain dumb and stupid if we don’t get any tool to counter casters.

@Piknim-emerald-dream

(16) Replace Blessing of Sanctuary with a PvP talent that reduces Blessing of Protection’s cooldown to 30 sec, but removes its entire duration. It’s a physical debuff dispel, and yes, it can still be cast on yourself while under the effect of a physical CC.

So a blessing of sanctuary because it removes physical stuns. But it removes bleeds and physical snares? So sanc but worse? Yeah no, keep sanc and change bop to 2min or 2.5min cd, 4sec duration.

@Piknim-emerald-dream

(17) I’m not sure if this is possible since Holy Light is a very different spell than it used to be, but I miss having this big, inexpensive heal I could cast if no one was attacking me. Ret only having Flash of Light, and therefore no choice in what to cast, feels very one-dimensional. I think the word I’m looking for is “pruned.”

What you are trying to say is you want wog back to its original iteration bit the 4.2 version, 3 holy power cast a heal on the target, 20sec cd. So you have the choice between tv, ds, es, inq and wog? Yes.
Also replace wog in talent tree with the 4.3 selfless healer reduce the cooldown to 10sec and have 50% increased healing on ally. We could even push it with last word talent making it having 60% crit chance on target below 35% max health.

@Piknim-emerald-dream

(22) I should probably get ahead of this before someone brings it up: seals and auras. I really enjoyed Empowered Seals in WoD, but that wasn’t for everyone and there have been more bad seal system designs than good ones. As for auras, they’re cool in theory but boring in practice. I’d rather our utility come from more active sources. How about we just give paladins baseline Crusader Aura so our friends can keep up with us.

@Fylerz-thrall

One thing that could be interesting regarding seals is if they had a short duration, let’s say we have 3 seals that lasts for 15 seconds. Each one would have a different benefit. To give an idea they could be something like this; damage increase, additional holy power generated through abilities, your next holy power spender is free.

Now we could remove the cooldown on crusader strike and blade of justice, and add a new generating ability; for our demonstration let’s say Vengeance’s Blade, could be dealing holy damage with a short range like 12yards closely resembling blade of justice or an aoe holy power generator.

Now, to activate each seals you must sequence your abilities in a certain way.

Seal A requires Crusader Strike then Blade of Justice then Vengeance’s Blade to activate.

Seal B requires Blade of Justice, Vengeance’s Blade then Crusader Strike.

Seal C requires Vengeance’s Blade, Blade of Justice then Crusader Strike.

That way we have to min max the entire rotation, keeping it fresh and interesting without wasting gcd doing nothing or for a passive buff, it is now the core strength of the entire spec resolving the gameplay rotation around keeping these seals up using sequential holy power generator.

What’s fun is it would be a fast paced rotation, still allows for overflowing holy power to 5, min maxing the rotation, and sounds engaging to play.