Ret Paladins, How viable will they be?

I’ll just do the best I can to be a team player.

It will be bad enough when you just have 11 bosses in phase 1. Can’t imagine farming enough of these for multiple raids. The recent parry news is probably going to be a big blow to feral tanking too…Bear tanks using MCP will essentially be fighting a perma enraged boss.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh… you serious? LOL! Respect holy or PVP. Or create a guild and make them carry you.

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Wow another useful and insight comment, truly adding to the discussion.

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Pretty useless if you plan to raid going ret. Luckily you can just heal for raids and get some good weapons to do PvP as ret.

Vanilla was a whole lot of farming. If you’re afraid you’re going to get bored farming stuff, then classic is not going to be the game for you no matter what class you roll.
If this new meta works, ret pallies won’t be rolling against warriors.

I believe spell power was the thing then. Wear mage +spell power to add more power to shockadin. Your pure ret abilty will be good in burst but your sustain will be pitiful.

I know their heals and buffs are awesome. They don’t have any limitations to giving a raid everyone of their buffs. I cant understand the complaining about rebuffing they do. A shaman rebuffs every pull and they don’t complain. Does retribution increase any of the effects of their buffs besides self damage? Enhancement shamans atleast can have one or two spots because of the Improved totems as long as they don’t mind healing from time to time when needed. On top of using Nightfall axe. If ret can’t out damage a pure damage class it has to have utility to make up for it. If it doesn’t have any enhancements for buffs to players to make up for damage your not doing, what’s the use in wanting to play something that only buffs your damage that can easily be done for a class that’s made for it. Why do you want to raid with a selfish spec instead of what works to get your offspec gear because it all eventually gets on farm. Raiding as ret is like raiding as a elemental shaman. It isn’t gonna be really looked at with any kinda open arms. Especially when you want to take something like trinkets, necks, and rings from high damage rogues, warriors, and hunters. And they are still out damaging you even when you get upgrades. Why invest in something you see no clear return on unless you have a unique buff that makes up for damage. But there are a lot of people whose mommy and daddy said they were special. They see nothing wrong with being selfish. And cant understand why your acting the way you are and don’t understand why you have a problem carrying them to get what they want.