Ret paladins are overpowered

Don’t thank me ignorant one.

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There you go.

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And they have no move speed just run away. If you loose a 1v1 as a lock to a paly you should delete that character.

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Void sac hasnt scaled with damage at all and then im without soul link soz

And even still they deal so disgusting damage one just two shot the felhunter i had once in stv

Nerf paladins and hunters

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Run away, move speed in boots, GG they never catch you. If a paly is gonna catch you they gotta mount.

Retpalforlif I’m not sure the position you are coming from. Do you think Livndeadgirl or any PvPer does not know about boot enchants or Defiler boots when that as been a part of the game for literally over 20 years?

Then, you pick through my comment to find an angle you could be right AGAIN. Bro, everyone knows about Swiftness potions. Every single Horde gets x2 for free as part of a quest in the Barrens. To act like I wouldn’t remember a Swiftness potion is making you look bad not bright.

Run around chugging your potions bro, that’s not part of the topic. Besides, no one wants to burn a Swiftness potion per Paladin bubble, unless you just admitted to buying gold.

How about some good insight and not the obvious?

Yeah pvp shouldnt be balanced around consumes ofherwise i want buffs cause everyone can use a shadow prot pot

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We run the same spec and this strategy works for me. If the Pala bubbles and starts to heal, kite away and you’re good. If they bubble and chase you down “which is what I’m mainly talking about”, then try to get to their back so the melee swings are disrupted. Drink a health potion if you need, or eat a health stone if you need. The Soul Link and these potions should keep you alive, but if they do not and yo are about to die, then void sac for about a 1460 shield, since you are Demo with 3/3 improved void. That “should” be enough to survive the final seconds to the point you can fear.

I personally fight Paladins with Felhunter. The very first thing I do ias the Paladin gets into range for it is silence the Paladin with my Felhunter “so they can’t hammer”, and then fear them. You might get a bubble from this which is great because you are full health, so you’re ready to live the burst. You should have the health pool for that, like 2500+ self buffed IMO.

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When someone clearly states : how do i kite a paladin when you run faster than i can
I don’t hesitate to think this person is indeed ignorant of the existence of the boots enchant or pvp boots.
Now you can think whatever you want it’s not my concern.

And now you want to change the rules just because every 5 minutes your paladin toy just rebel against you and can finally kill you?
The irony.

What do you expect?
For many years players answered to paladin : pick engineer for grenades and bring a war/rogue to snare your enemy.
Do you really think it would be different here? Stop dreaming.

Welcome to reality.
As I said above for many years and even now players answered to paladin’s weakness by pick engineer and bring someone who can snare.
Even yesterday one guy told me to farm gnomeregan to make some snare grenades.

Why the paladin should be the only one with this kind of problem?

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Sounds like OP found out how badly Meta Locks get dumpstered by Ret Paladins lmao.

Shaman are 100x stronger.

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Enhancement shaman is literally 10x stronger. Not saying either isn’t broken, just saying go watch any enhance pvp video on YouTube. Enhance is taking on pallys 2v1. However, I agree with the point you are trying to make. If you give druid, shaman, pally or sp similar damage as pure damage classes, they will be overpowered in pvp. It really is that simple. They were not designed to do this much damage. They were designed to do less damage as a trade off for utility to out last pure damage classes. Now, they have all the same utility plus more AND roughly the same damage as every other dps spec. The only way I see to fix this without going down the same road as retail, is to make runes spec specific or add a downside to all runes. IE If enhance takes WoE, the lose 25% attack power. Or PoM can not be used while specced shadow.
Note: I am speaking purely about pvp here, not pve.

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Source for this data? Pretty big claim. I mean I could just say the exact same thing about a Shaman right now, or a Druid P1. Curious about the data, because to be honest you don’t seem trustworthy

Im aware of the boots but i havent grinded the rep for ab yet nor wish to give up my hyperconductive 3pc just to possibly kite a ret paladin

And half the time i fight em its in an area hard to kite like im running thru stv and getting dazed by every freakin gorilla

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the data is “trust me bro” but i guess they are the same complainers that give a massive cry when DK is a real threat and start quitting the arena.

enchant your boots?

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Shaman cant become immune to all damage nice try tho

What I took as hyperbole you took as literally. Only Livndeadgirl can tell us who is correct.

The answer is in.

I was right

It is your concern. You are concerned which is why you read my post, replied, and will read this post and reply.

No, because I said this before you said that:

This indicates I do not want a change.

This indicates me trying to give a solution OTHER then the solution you say I want.

Irony means, a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result. Exactly like you reading my post on this topic indicating I don’t want a Paladin change, but you replying as saying that I do ant a change, which is contrary to my post, it’s not the reply I was expecting, and is amusing as a result. Irony.

I guess you are right. The complaints are about Paladins and you are a Paladin replying with “yeah, drink a Swiftness potion”. That does make sense. I was dreaming, in thinking we would put our faction bias aside, leaving that on the battlefield and on these forums, coming together.

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Lololololol @ thinking ret is even close to spriest or shaman lolololololololol

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Ret pallies are not op lmao. They need a buff in pvp and pve.

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