Ret paladin viability

You didn’t make the right class choice. :wink:

I would probably play a pally if I roll alliance though I’d actually be leaning towards a warlock.

All of the things I’ve gotten wrong are immaterial to the argument I’m making because the argument I have is an opinion:

Being not optimal is the same as being not viable to the general public who will comprise raids the OP is talking about. In that sense, ret is provably weaksauce and worthless.

You’re falling from the light and into the darkness stand with us and be a champion of justice.

its funny you say that, because the general public are all of the same opinion and all of them contradict yours, maybe your opinion is best kept to yourself as not one person of “the general public” seems to think you know what you are talking about.
and im not refering to this thread im talking about every thread you post in.

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If you think the majority of wow classic raiders who comprise the raids OP is talking about will be scrubs in here versus people like Alexensual and the original vanilla experience of ret being shunned, you’re dreaming. We’ve lived this once before. History is on my side, and it’s not changing this time around.

oh man hes an alexensual minion, this explains so much… the hilarity continues.

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Hmm…guess rogues are popular.

Yeah I wasn’t going to take an easy shot.

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But…its too good to pass up

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Im not a big fan of arguing but wasn’t feral shunned all of vanilla wow and most of the private server scene until someone found out that Manuel crowd pummeler and wolf she’d helm combined together can push them over 1000 dps?

Who knows maybe with the knowledge people have today combined with a server that actually works the way it’s meant to for paladin, I.E unresistsble holy damage something might change.

I am not willing to put my money on it tho, and will be rolling something I know works, is needed, and optimal.

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Yeah, powershifting is pretty cool, I have a lot of respect for people that min/max that hard. The effort is commendable and memorable. I’ve take interest in this kinds of things because I played back when Shadow Priest was stigmatized. Now? If your Warlock allocation is right, you want one in every raid.

Except in modern WoW…

What s that?
grabs behind back, pulling out bloody dagger

That hurts man

Sorry man but I’m old school where we tell the truth no matter how unpalatable it might be…

It’s cool. My name is all people need to accept the popularity of rogues.

I still think its funny that people are saying that “Its okay, we don’t need to maximize dps because this person can maybe heal if someone screws up!” How about instead of that, take the best dps you can and not have people screw up? The faster you kill a boss, the easier the boss is. Just going back to the age old example, Ragnaros is easier when you don’t have to deal with an elemental wave, let alone two.

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See that’s the thing tho you don’t really need a shadow priest period if you have a healing priest willing to put 20 points into shadow and mind flay once every what is it 10 or 20 seconds?

But people still bring them anyways because why not?

It’s not that they can switch on the fly. The advantage comes when certain fights require less healing or more damage and then you can switch to healing when the fights demand it. Also paladins have a true AoE compared to rogues or warriors so large packs can die faster. Everything is niche.

Oh, we had that, it was called alts that people could switch to because that was both easier and better for the raid. Also, we always had a few people on that we could call in if the situation needed it for certain fights.

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