You can’t even compare Turtle to Immunity for Ret. A Turtle only blocks physical damage and you can’t even attack (The amount of times I died with a DoT with low HP turtling…). Immunity for Rets blocks ALL damage and allows you to attack. These are some of the nuisances between classes that makes Ret overturned with a ton of utility.
But they are not. So this is why people make fun of you.
Not even remotely true.
All pure DPS classes have TONS of utility.
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Good, glad we agree because roughly 50-60% of a ret’s overall is unhelpful damage that actually makes the dungeon go slower.
" Classes are going to have perceived benefits over others, it will shift in time, it always does". Unless your a warrior. This does not apply to them. They have a spec in meta or just outside every expansion every season. I kid ofc. Or am i?
Pally (ret) for life yo!
Played ret back in SL when we were literal dumpsters haha. Just love this class so ill play it even if its rock bottom. In fact id rather quit than not play ret.
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Just as an off-hand question, you do know there is a world outside with birds chirping, plants growing, and life unfolding right?
Ayoooo!
Im more of a Pally and Plate Melee for life yo, kinda guy.
I love Prot Pally too, and Fury is the funnest spec in the game. Not even debatable.
But both my Ret’s will never not play a season.
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Goldshire? 
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Tbf im a boring af mofo haha
Bg3 - pally
Wow - pally
Dnd - pally
Ive got an addiction, and the only cure is more pally!
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Correct. You’re upset for no reason. Ret isn’t even a top spec. It’s good, but other specs do better.
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I actually really liked playing mountain thane warrior for tank. Granted it’s not prot paladin with some things, but very fun imo 
Yes ret has way too much utility.
Why ret paladins were given a battle rez I will never know?
Sac should be removed from all paladin specs.
Spellwarding should be removed from prot and never given to another paladin spec.
Lay on Hands needs a longer cool-down.
Word of glory healing for ret needs to be reduced.
Also battle rez removed from at least ret. Maybe allow prot and holy to keep it but not ret
Or just don’t play the “wheel chair” class of a dk
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Another: Tell you don’t know how to play your own Spec, without telling me, answer.
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Rets 20 yard range on final verdict needs to be removed
Ret second charge of divine steed needs to be removed
Ret 30% movement increase from blessing of freedom (unbound freedom talent) needs to be removed.
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I agree, Mt. Thane was the only way to go.
hes posting on a level 55 classic dk that part was obvious already.
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I can’t tell if you’re a Troll or just straight up whining?
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Rets do too much damage to have all of this utility and movement.
Either their damage needs to be heavily nerfed or their mobility needs to be heavily nerfed.
One or the other, as both is not healthy for the balance of the game.
That dude guaranteed a classic andy pala. Auto attack for leveling and then you’re basically a healer in cloth gear destined to raid forever, what a rip. I’m surprised he hasn’t suggested removing the whole spec yet, lol
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