Restore Kael'thas' Voice Actor

the judge found that there were grounds to issue a protective order on his behalf. the judge did not find that she’s a dirty liar, and even his own posts don’t claim that the judge found that.

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He didn’t just say of course I am innocent, he presented evidence and talked about how he was told to stay silent from word of legal counsel.

Him speaking at this stage means the council is in a point of confidence with their findings that they presented and its looking good. They explain their whole process.

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I can understand why Blizzard wouldn’t want the VA to come back, i think it sucks even atfer he’s proven innocent, but it’s understandable… from a business perspective.

With that said though, i do wish replacing sounds effects in WoW is still a thing if they aren’t going to put his old voice work back in. Not just for the VA, but for many other things as well.

How much you want to bet they will not be on aboard with it when it happens to them? They always say they love something that has a potential of damage to another person’s life. It’s one of those things that make me pause and think about it and have to imagine myself in the other person’s shoes here. :thinking:

It’s one of the reasons why i’m extremely hesitant to flag people because of how false flagging that has been going on the forums, to give an example.

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it’s funny to me that people talk about how awful it is to just take someone’s word and that cancel culture = satan because of how harmful they view it just “believe” someone without evidence. but that’s exactly what they’re doing. they’re declaring him innocent of all wrong doing when he hasn’t even been to court for it yet.

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She failed to meet the burden of proof for any of her accusations.

Innocent.

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that’s not what a hearing for an order of protection does

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Social media was a mistake.

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All I can say is: never trust people who represent themselves in court. Theres usually a giant red flag there.

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no she failed to not stalk him. no one is defending the stalking. but you guys are saying a + b = potato.

That’s called empathy.

Something people lack nowadays.

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Related to her behavior about her claims against him where she was found guilty of stalking. If we are to believe what he’s saying the judge’s hope was “that she would cease this assassination of [his] character and get the help she needs”, if she needs help she could be mentally unwell casting further doubt on her claims. It does not mean he didn’t do anything, but again that’s not what would be on trial, it would be the accuser proving that he did something.

In order to have a restraining order i.e. Protective order issued there is a certain burden of proof the accuser must meet. The accuser must prove that there is harm or intended harm via the accused.

She failed to meet any legal standard in this case and the judge refused her request and rightly so. As far as I am aware of there are no legal charges against this voice actor regarding this woman, therefore, there is no basis for this man to lose his presumption of innocence by any standards!

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sure, maybe, but that’s not what the judge ruled. the judge ruled that her behavior rose to the level of harassment. that’s it. even the VA here isn’t claiming that the judge cleared his name.

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Dear C’thulu… what a freaking, unholy trainwreck this thread is…

Why am I tossing myself into this? Who knows? I never had common sense so why should I develop one now, amirite?

But first and foremost, yes, he should be restored. Will Blizzard do it? Probably not because chances are they are afraid of the backlash even if it’s guaranteed that it would come from people who don’t play nor pay for their games.

Second, I’m finding it to be really puzzling all the infantilizing based on age difference and also quite ridiculous. I’m an adult woman, if someone called a man in his 60s who I’m flirting with and is flirting back a “creep” because there’s an age gap, I would find that incredibly condescending.

Third, it’s seriously scary to see the amount of people trying to argue against due process. You’re not helping victims with this (and I have my reasons to say this wholeheartedly) and destroying someone’s life based on the words of someone random on the internet is not “justice”.

That’s all I’ll say, nothing anyone can say will justify the weilding of metaphorical pitchforks.

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Stalkers are scary.

Its as bad as saying he is guilty of all that wrongdoing before he even went to court yet.

The only reason he released those papers is because his legal council believes in his case.

Ah how quickly you are to believe to accused. I really hope that you show more judgement in other issues because that’s painfully naive.

To answer your question yes, I have read his post and it reeks of the same BS I’ve seen from every other public figure that it turns out was found guilty of the exact things that they claimed they didn’t do in their statements.

Do you know who else denied the claims that were brought against them by their accusers? Rolf Harris, Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein. All three of those men were found guilty of doing the exact things they viciously denied doing. Why? Because famous people, people who rely on their reputations to get work, will say anything to protect that reputation.

Nothing has been disproven here. All you’re doing is taking the word of the accused over the accuser.

Private companies do not abide by the standards of due process we all agree. However due process for his harassment claims haven’t been completed yet. The only court case was about whether she harassed.

Yes, people who do false claims should be punished. No, we do not know that her claims are false yet. And I don’t know how old you are but nowadays women and their words have more power than ever before when speaking out about crimes. I mean the police still turn a blind eye often, and the court system definitely has problems. But as far as women’s power is concerned y’all are at an all time high.

How the hell did he manage to get 3-4 different woman all to make baseless claims against him? Sure he’s been found innocent of wrongdoing, and perhaps he didn’t do anything illegal…but you gotta wonder what kind of character he is to attract that…

That was apparently the judge’s “hope” that she would stop the character assassination and get help she needs, the judge’s ruling (according to him) was that “she was obsessively stalking [him], [his] family and [his] professional associates.”, why would she be stalking his family as well?

I’m also not saying the judge cleared his name, I’m saying he’s still innocent until proven guilty. All this proceeding does is cast doubt on her claim.

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