I think… phase 2
Its been soooo many years I have forgotten. Here I was thinking it come in WoD not WoTLK…silly me
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Crazy right? Classic Wrath invented everything that is bad in WoW. /s
false. lying again and exaggerating truth again. give it up.
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I’m like 8 minutes in on 2x and this guy is already insufferable. Just the start. “THIS VIDEO WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR LIFE AND THE WORLD FOREVER.”
Yea ok. Tone it down a notch there buddy. And he’s just throwing out buzz words to discredit Kargoz/Gonzales so far. They were involved in CRYPTO (ooooooh) and Kargoz said monetization (aaaaaaaaaaaah.) “There’s just a lot of weird stuff going on there with crypro and monetization.”
Where buddy? Show me don’t tell me. Kargoz saying he wants to provide a platform for GAMERS to monetize their SKILLS is not the same thing as Blizzard monetizing a game through microtransactions etc. Literally the only way those two things are linked is that he used the word “monetized” and Alexensual or whatever is trying to capitalize on the fact he thinks his viewers are too stupid to tell the difference.
“Anyone spectating this is welcome to look into this on their own.” Of course I’M not going to look into it at all. I’m just going to lob a bunch of vague accusations up and then move on to lobbing other vague accusations for the next 40 minutes of the video. I can’t be bothered to ACTUALLY look into this stuff. The video is only 48 minutes long after all!
That about how the rest of this goes?
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Substantiate your claim: cite an official statement from Blizzard that they have adopted this stance. As I posted earlier:
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oh wow kargoz is here
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Did you guys know that it is still very popular to sell weakauras for subs in (retail) WoW?
Is Blizzard supporting them? No. Is Blizzard getting paid by them? No.
It is really not that hard to understand. Blizzard is just terrible bad at enforcing their addon rules, even back in your “glory” days of wow. People sold addons in TBC without bans. Zygor and Joanna sold guides without bans.
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This. Blizzard has no problem adding features from later expacs to WotLK (WoW token, faction v faction, watered down mythic dungeons), they were fine with implementing most WotLK features early, but the in game quest helper that was part of WotLK? Nah that can wait. 
Not to mention that everyone uses questie, clearly the majority of the player base wants it.
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Oh my god, it’s sooo bad rofl. He’s soo over the top.
“And it does get worse. Way worse.” Like… I can actually see him writing out this script and mentally high-fiving himself for these lines.
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small potatoes compared to RXP.
STOP BEING DISHONTEST
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Yea I’m not sure why the quest helper isn’t in the game. Well tbf, if they did, people like Alex would have made a video/complain about how this is not classic etc
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Yes. Or, if you’re of the tinfoil persuasion, it reflects an inappropriate relationship between the addon devs and game devs.
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stop changing the subject. you’re manipulating the narrative without addressing facts. you are only proving you are dishonest.
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Dude stop trolling. It is over. I’m not going to interact with you in any way. Go touch some grass, go live a life outside the forums or chat in Alex discord. I don’t care. Just stop talking nonsense.
I’m not changing the narrative for a tinfoil hat man.
I don’t know why it wouldn’t be worth their time to target a company directly making money off their IP.
The more popular paid addons become the bigger barrier you create for players to want to get into the game because they learn that the way to play the game is by spending money on it. It’s one thing to sell services for your own game (still comes with the pitfalls of creating a barrier), but I wouldn’t want people thinking the way to play my game is to buy paid services from third party vendors.
Based on their rule paid anything = not ok. One part of the rule is that they cannot charge for services related to the add-on and a guide certainly seems to fit a service of the addon.
Any argument you make to explain how guides don’t fit that criteria is nothing more than mental gymnastics.
Nothing in that rule seems to try to give addon developers any wiggle room to make money. The only rule that seems to give that is the rule about donations and being limited to their website rather than in-game advertising.
Historically they asked for donations and as you pointed out Patreon is a big ticket item these days.
The way to verify that what you’re saying is basically hogwash is that if every addon developer did the same thing these guys did the rule might as well not exist because we’d all ultimately be paying for any addons we downloaded and that flies in the face of the core rule being to not charge people for addons.
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the amount of lying you’re doing means you’re trolling. a troll calling everyone else a troll, really?
flagged for trolling.
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They don’t need an official post when the event they took over “Race to world first” uses paid plug-in and they are okay with it.
You know the event Blizzard has eyes on like a hawk for cheating and hotfixing. Actions speak louder than words.
But no go on denying anything that goes against your self-believed stance.
or… and hear me out… it is working as intended.
Then remove all addons. I’m all for that.
And another rule is that addons can’t ask for donations, but they do. Why don’t you complain about that?
and mental gymnastics is looking at what Blizzard has historically done… and say “Hey they historically have done X in regards to Y”
Okay… I guess calling a wet dog wet is mental gymnastics.
So you are trying to smokescreen to switch the rule we are talking about here? You go from rule 5 to make it about rule 1. A rule broken is a rule broken, and all rules are core not just the first one.
I’m done here. Facts are as the rules have been written (backed by historical Blizzard action) neither Zygor nor Rested XP have broken any rule. Until Blizzard changes those rules or chooses to include additional written code for AddOns as “services related to the add-on” by taking even a single action to set any form of precedent instead of the exact opposite. Both AddOn will remain in the clear no matter how you feel that they broke a rule or the spirit of a rule. It isn’t for you to interpret it is for Blizzard to, and Blizzard right now says they are okay.
30 minutes in. This guy is a hack and this is video is a joke lol.
Oh man. I mean… I could make a list of why this video is absurd. But I don’t think anything can top this.
“I firmly believe there was more love and respect towards mankind in the second World War then there currently is on the Twitch Platform in 2023. And in all seriousness that is the case. That’s what RXP is”
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It’s really a fine line that these addons are walking. It’s true that they technically aren’t in violation because the addon itself is free and functions fully without needing needing to spend a dime. However, we all know that the entire point of the addon is the guide that you pay for.
I think one of the major determining factors for me is how easy it is to pirate the guide. Can one person buy the guide from RXP and then offer it as a download to other people for free? If yes, then I dont have an issue. If no, then I have a hard time believing that the guide and addon are truly separate and not just a ToS loophole. I understand both sides of the argument, but as I dont use those guides I cannot speak much towards them.
Blizz seems to be ok with them now because there are only a couple that are created for monetization, but I imagine things will change if more and more addons start trying to exploit the payment loophole.
In the end, I feel addons were intended to be a way for the community to create things to improve the game. Yes, they are often done on the backs of free labor by some passionate and talented individuals, but not everything needs to be monetized. If it gets out of hand, I hope blizz will close the loophole.