To me, that’s the scummiest thing somebody can do
Kinda shocked nobody talks about it
Thanks for sharing that. The messages at the start were a bit off-putting but the content was pretty good and looked legit.
What’s sad to me is the way that Blizzard is listening to these money-driven types, meaning mostly narcissists who put their own selfish desires and greed for money, over listening to the players who actually care about the game being better and not just a financial payout.
It’s truly sad. Really I suppose this is the same as saying trash attracts trash, as both Blizzard and these streamers have the same unethical core game-ruining motivations. I’m glad I’ve mostly stepped away from this garbage.
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They are being made and sold by the developer.
That is a crystal-clear example of for-pay features/services, which again:
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the tos isn’t a list of rules set in stone. this is a gray area at best, but blizz can do w/e they want.
arguing your interpretation is pointless. argue for what you want to happen
ps: you could basically do this with any addon.
details isn’t a dmg meter, it’s a combat log viewer.
dbm isn’t a callout system, it’s an interface to allow you to make callouts. WA
its not that simple. The addon is worthless unless you pay for the guides. you know it and so does everyone that has used it. it is a sneaky little trick to try to bypass a rule.
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Zygor have done that for more than 10 years now and for whatever reason Blizzard has never cared about it even if it falls within the ToS rules. It’s not suddenly RXP that is doing shady things
Is this video implying that blizz employees are accepting bribes to allow a paid, premium, addon to exist?
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Unfortunately yes, which is very tinfoil hat imo
it’s probably more sad then that. fanbois changing the game for free
but who knows. they’re obviously making asinine $ from it
I remember awhile back a blizz employee immediately banned someone annoying a streamer. streamer said ban x, and they were gone
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Disagree for tinfoil hat…because
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A paid for, premium addon, exists that is against the TOS.
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Nothing is done about it.
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Collaboration exists within blizz and developers.
If something isn’t right, there is a buck in it. Who is profiting?
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Private servers are also against ToS, bots are also against ToS. Do you think g2g is now paying Blizzard so they can bot or do you think private server nerds pay Blizzard so they exist?
You see the world isnt always black and white. Blizzard simply doesnt care is the most reasonable reason here
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servers exists in other countries and blizz can’t stop them
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Even the ones within the United States exist for way too long. Blizzard is just lazy
No. it is implying that a few from inside blizz are very chummy with those that created these addons and the path that classic has folllowed has greatly helped these addons.
think about hardcore alone. It is very niche. certain influencers pushed it and pushed it. They even influenced other streamers to join in with the Road to RAg. People are people and when a bunch of streamers are doing something, a large part of the playerbase will want to follow. They want to be a part of it. the harcore servers give RXP more guide income.
Think about hardcore by itself for a second. It is a style of play that almost forces SINGLE player experience with ZERO help from other players. All we have heard blizz tell us about classic is that they felt how important socializing and group play was. And now they suddenly not only SUPPORT single player versions, but are making special servers just for it. How many times have a large portion of players asked for individual servers With RDF? did they get them?
The influence is as close to obvious that it can get.
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Man reading this stuff is so tinfoil hat. Where is any proof of Blizzard getting paid? There is none. What about Zygor? Have you missed those 15 years of WoW? Zygor has done that even back in Wrath (!!). It’s not a sudden expose of Blizzard with RXP
That does not apply to guides. How many time do I have to tell you that. I literally gave you an example that Blizzard 100% knows about. It isn’t against their rules. No matter how much you say it is.
Your interpretation does not mean anything against Blizzard’s own interpretation.
You are right. It isn’t set in stone. It is set in sand, and currently that sand says what is going on isn’t against the guidelines Blizzard has set forward.
It isn’t my interpretation it is Blizzards, so no it is not pointless, and quite frankly I don’t care what happens because I don’t use it. What I care about it people spreading misinformation because they don’t like something.
As for details and DBM I’ve already commented on the two. There is no functional way to split off anything from details as it would change the functionality of the AddOn and thus result in a premium version breaking it. DBM however could be changed to sell you boss timers.
No, it isn’t. If you do not buy any of their guides, You still get a farming tool and a profession leveling guide. As well as enough to get any new player to WoW starter.
You know what I find funny about all of this. You guys complaining about Rested XP breaking rules when they aren’t, but don’t complain about the free guides that is breaking rules.
Rule 5: AddOns may not solicit donations.
You don’t care about the rules. You care that you can’t get something for free, and that someone else is making money off their work.
Blizzard employees aren’t helping with Private servers, but some are helping RXP.
Blizzard employees aren’t helping bot companies, but they’re helping with RXP.
exactly, why it likely isn’t tinfoil hat…people do shady things.
blizzard hasn’t allowed paid addons until now.
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The full text is:
Selling people guides to plug into the addon seems to entirely fit the criteria of a premium version of the addon, and/or being an additional for-pay feature, and/or charge for services related to the add-on. They are obviously profiting off their addon to say the least.
I have no idea why Blizzard hasn’t gone after Zygor, Rested Exp, or any add-on that has set itself up this way because the spirit of the text seems to target profiting off of addons via sales. Even if you want to argue that the lingo isn’t specific enough to restrict the way they have packaged developing these kinds of addons that is ultimately the spirit of the text, and Blizzard can always retroactively update their rules as the times change.
If I was the person who wrote this rule and saw what they were doing to circumvent it I’d absolutely go back to update the lingo because the way they are currently doing things absolutely gives Blizzard the middle finger. The fact that they haven’t seems to imply there are other factors at play.
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Thats not the point. The whole point of this accusation is that RXP is paying Blizzard employees to exist. This would apply the same here.
Oh poor child… Tell me you haven’t followed retail without telling me that. Again, literally Zygor that exists since Wotlk have been selling premium guides for over 15 years now. Why is it suddenly in 2023 a shady thing? As if it never happened before? Just because Alex did some random investigating and claiming that Blizzard devs are getting paid without any proof? I’m not saying his video is bullcrap, RXP is full of sh*t and a terrible addon for the community but claiming that Blizzard is getting paid without any proof is very a bold accusation.
The fact is that Blizzard just have been terrible lazy at regulating addons for the past 20 years (and RXP is a hilarious overpriced addon with strange people at the top)
Yeah, I don’t see how anyone can argue that RXP (and paid weakauras too) don’t violate that rule.
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