Request for players not to enter a losing Epic BG where a lot of players left

As way more of a solo player, I stray away from more group activities because of certain behaviors from the player base. There are some interesting personalities found in this game more than other online games. But I continue to play due to nostalgia and I do enjoy BG’s when I don’t look at chat too much.
The game has evolved so much into a solo experience and there is really no stopping it. with each expansion + new area, you will naturally divide a player base. So I understand ppl building communities, even if they might be premades, to deter this “evolution”. It just so happens that this pushback is highly unfavorable by the majority than minority

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Midnight will completely destroy all if any capital city with the addition to player housing. We reaching ghost town levels. I will be curious if they add a city hub for cross faction going forward. Gonna feel like a single player game and with people not even talking in dungeons/lfg/bgs. Gonna feel like I am just paying a monthly sub to play with bots. #doomsday

Yes you were. You were taking screenshots and posting them to the forums instead of fighting. That’s why I premade, I don’t want to be on a team with that.

No. They pulled volrath and were in the process of killing it, but you decided to come to the forums to make something up to push your narrative, so you’re lying and claiming that they were GY camping.

Dude. look at the kills. The match was almost over. I got away from the GY and took a screenshot. That isn’t being afk.

No they weren’t. The main group was sitting just outside of the GY. You low level hidden profile trolls are absolutely worthless.

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I wasn’t afk. I moved away from the GY to take a screenshot.

Now you’re going with personal attacks?

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Based on the comments:

  • People had left after initial clash, in most cases, it’s due to being severally outmatched and/or premade.
  • Adroi took a missing slot after people left.
  • They took a screenshot, which I must admit, it is hard to decipher. But unfortunately, since this is Ashran, we win based on player kills or the boss kill. So they could argue they were playing towards objective even if it was player kills.
  • We also don’t the list of players to confirm if it was premade.

In their defense, a screenshot takes like 10 seconds. Even if they did fight, whats is the fun of a death-loop. Plus, people who AFK are few and far between those actually playing. Most instances we call them out and have them remove if we actually have a “real” match going on. If there isn’t a real balanced match, people will just wait for the next match, which is also valid. Fighting a severly losing battle mostly favors the opposition.

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Yep.

When I joined they had just wiped. A bunch of people were still leaving when I joined. I pushed up some and then it was mostly just people dying for the 10-15 minutes. They pushed into our base and set just outside of the GY. I got away from the GY and took a screenshot. A small group of people did pull Volrath, but he was alive for 2-3 minutes as the main group wasn’t targeting him. I’m assuming it was just regular pugs that wanted the match to end or just wanted the quest completed.

Regardless, match was over by the time I took the screenshot. Not sure why anyone would accuse me of being afk when you can see the kill count.

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I deemed the match over, So I afked to post on the forums of the screenshot I took while still in game and it was still going. I was totally not afk because I had the scoreboard up and you could see the KBs. When I tabbed back the game ended and I moved on thus I wasn’t afk because if I was afk I would of been kicked from the game. Genius. Bravo. The quality of each post supersedes the next.

They’re just trying to discredit you because what you’re saying doesn’t fit their narrative here on the forums: that they’re morally upstanding BFFs looking for ‘close, competitive matches’, against pugs only, that definitely don’t involve farming.

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Pretty much. Same people almost every time.

For someone who said they have me on ignore, you sure have a lot to say.

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If the enemy team is in your base in numbers like that at all and its not a backdoor attempt its usually a stomp anyway and had been for some time.

The base in ashran is set up to the most defendable position on the map if you cant win the teamfight on your bridge/in the base you cant win it anywhere.

So yeah afking is probably a good idea in that situation.

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IoC is the worst map for horde because of the ridiculous advantages alliance has, assuming most of them have half a brain and leave their gate on time. Hangar cap is much easier to set up from their direction, and they can hit the flag from their airship to defend it.

Most of the time it’s also just horde pugs, so I don’t really blame people for leaving IoC after that first fight vs. alliance premades.

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I agree. I joined RR on some characters because I could only get a couple winning games. The entire sync queue thing needs to be addressed.
I take no issue with those players personally. It’s supposed to be a random battleground not a stacked ranked game. No offense to Ruthless, that was my grandmothers name, RIP Ruth.

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I get the frustration but don’t think it is the right way to do it. Really the q sync issue is the root of it, but we need at least account wide deserter. The idea that isn’t there just completely eliminates deserter. The fact is is account wide for some modes makes it even more egregious.

I get that too, this would be more ideal for higher stakes rated BG. But this might punish players who get disconnected, have personal matters, etc. Some people just PVP this could cause players to be unable to play a game they paid for.
It definitely could deter the pre-sync matter though. But then again, it’s sad we’d have to punish the collective rather than the few.

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Doesn’t matter. It wasn’t over before you decided to afk.

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I wasn’t afk. I took a screenshot. Would you rather I be sitting in the GY to take it? What do you expect me to be doing? Dying? That’s what was happening prior. Do I just keep dying or is getting away from the GY bad in your mind?

You low level trolls do nothing but trash this forum.

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That doesn’t make sense to me. You are basically saying we can’t have any deserter debuff then. For it to be on just one character doesn’t do anything if you have 2 pvp characters you just switch and play again and the time is so short it does basically nothing.

If you are dc’ing that much then I just don’t think you should play pvp honestly because it is a team game and if you are constantly afk that sucks. Either have the debuff be meaningful or get rid of it totally. I don’t think a 15 minute debuff is punishing enough to do away with it for people who dc, but right now it is ineffective.

That said this won’t punish the q syncers, it is a deterrent to the team getting beat up by the q syncers from quitting and passing it to the next person. There is no perfect system so you have to just do the best you can.

fixing q syncing is a whole different list of things though and deserter for afk in a bg isn’t one of them. Deserter for dropping queue after it pops is. I think that should have a few for free then deserter account wide personally. That plus a number of other small changes would clean it up. They should phase them in starting with the least negative.

  1. cross faction would help to lower q sync effectiveness and speed up queues
  2. randomized queue insertion would directly hit q sync (ie 1 2 3 no longer matters because it slots you in over the last minute of people who queued randomly would also not hurt anyone as it is random)
  3. make an actual epic mode that allows people to sign up as a 40 man in game ala the 10v10 rated
  4. deserter for dropping queue

There are a ton of things they can do. They haven’t said they are looking at anything yet so…we just keep saying it and they just keep shutting down forum posts and acting like their community engagement is good.

Kind of standard Blizzard since the Activision buy. Most issues take 10 years before they even mention it…this has been longer.

Oh and don’t forget if you did pop and let them kill you then it is your fault for letting them hk farm. It’s ridiculous the way these guys debate. The pvp discussion really shows you how the world has gone off the rails. Maybe video game violence does do bad things…jut to the way people interact rather than making people murderers.

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Yea. It’s a nonsense argument. Either I stay and farmed. OR I stay and just sit in the bubble. Or I try and get away. I was able to get away.

Forums were better off when people couldn’t hide on alts.

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