BoEs are a rare drop that people occasionally find in the open world.
Raid BoP Gear is a guaranteed drop in instanced content.
Obviously I don’t have a crystal ball to look, but it’s not difficult to imagine there being as many or more ArcanoShredders on a server as Southsea Lamps or Heaven’s light maces.
I’m positive there are more ArcanoShredders than there are Gut Rippers.
Now that I switched to healing I wouldn’t mind getting a healer cut. Time to bring it back
GDKP was only popular in your own mind!
Just about every players hates GDKP!
That is why when survey was sent out people complained about GDKP, and myself included!
These people can’t see two inches in front of their own face. It’s crazy they think “I don’t rmt, therefore all gdkp’s have no rmt” is an argument.
For players Thats don’t buy gold how are they gonna get in groups if just about every runs are GDKP??
If you like GDKP play retail!
GDKP DONT BELONG IN SOD!
Sorry, but this is a bad argument. They actively do monitor the AH for weird sales that result in big payouts. Ever see a white item on the AH for thousands of gold? Yeah. They ban those people as it is one of the easiest and well known ways to catch gold buyers.
Second, you can always choose to not buy those items. Not only are we not max level, but you don’t need the full BIS gear to clear raids. Cleared Gnomer the first week in mostly greens and some SM blues.
To quote one of the most famous video game lines of all time, “it’s a secret to everybody.” You can deny that the gold is illicit all you want, but you as well as everyone else knows that it is more likely than not gold that was obtained illicitly.
Not a single time in my life have I considered buying gold for this game.
And yet, I still enjoy GDKP.
You don’t think we exist, but I assure you we are the majority of players.
At no point did Blizz give us a tool to report Sus gold buyers.
They finally allowed us to report bots- But it’s an automated system - No GM’s or man power applied.
Bring back GDKP
Ps . Go ahead and ban gold buyers for life.
Even if you, or 8 others didn’t buy illicit gold, there is a high chance that the 10th person in the raid did. It’s more than highly probable that the gold you have from GDKPs was illicit during the GDKP or prior to it.
It doesn’t matter if 90% of the GDKP player base obtained their gold from legitimate sources if 10% of the GDKP didn’t. The gold that was bought only causes the legitimate to have to spend more gold to outbid the person with unlimited gold. It’s a bad system that rewards people who get frustrated and end up buying gold because they can’t afford to outbid other players who are not playing legitimately. Blizzard has said this themselves.
Nobody has ever said or thought that (except you just now), but people have said “all gdkp’s are rmt”, and “can’t gdkp without rmt”. I think those are the people who cannot see beyond their nose.
how about nooooo
Prices remained high bwcause gold per quest is high. Gdkp is cancer go cry more
Also, you should play the game because you enjoy it and the friends you claim you lost interest in playing with when you could no longer be cancer and gdkp
Honestly appreciate all the feedback here. For and against. Also appreciate thoughtful responses on why GDKP should and shouldn’t be allowed.
Myself and others have posted about the many benefits of GDKP raids several times.
On the contrary: Outside of the RMT case (which should be handled by enforcing existing TOS) I have yet to see compelling reasons why GDKP should continue to be banned.
Also not to be all kumbaya, but remember, even the people trolling here or totally disagreeing with you share your love/addiction for this game. You have way more in common with them than any other person walking down the street. We’re amongst friends.
Well then there will be no problem then if they are brought back, as they won’t overtake the PuG scene like the guy I was responding to was claiming they would.
So unless you believe you have some Karen right to be able to tell other people how they should play because you like/dislike something there is no problem in bringing back GDKPs.
I think the bigger question is, why are GDKPers so against just using the tried and true MS>OS or SR runes? Both are back in full force and it doesn’t cost you any gold to do.
The only advantage to legitimate GDKPers can say is they made money off the run to buy more mats. It wasn’t until much later in WoW did raiding pay for itself and I think that is something Blizzard should consider and then there would be even less argument for GDKPs.
People don’t like losing loot when they’ve been clearing raids for months to some random player who is at the bottom of the meters and dying to every mechanic because he rolled higher than them.
Or when someone rolls on an item that’s a marginal upgrade when it could be a much larger upgrade for someone else based on their current gear or spec and wins.
Or when for instance the loot master decides the offtank can’t roll MS on a two-hander even though tanking with a two-hander is viable in classic currently and they are dpsing on most fights.
I’m not saying any loot system is perfect but lets not pretend MS>OS doesn’t have any issues. Especially when pugs are involved
Why or how does gold change you losing loot to the bottom of the meters? Literally, those people are the ones buying the gear typically. So no, this makes no sense.
Again nothing in GDKP solves the minor upgrade versus major upgrade. At best, someone might go, “nah, that’s only a small upgrade and I am not bidding more.” Still bad logic.
And GDKP allows someone who doesn’t even want or can’t even use the item to buy it. So please tell me how any of this is solved with gold involved?
SR solves these issues better. MS>OS does largely the same, and if the RL is ignorant to what is BIS or viable, you should be clear to the RL ahead of time that you want to roll on the item for XYZ reason. If they say, “no I don’t agree” you can go elsewhere.
You literally made not a single valid argument for how GDKP is superior loot system.
Typically someone who has been doing GDKPs for months will naturally have more gold than someone new because they’ve been saving up their cuts from other raids for an item. And if the new player does have more gold than them, the gold goes back to the raid and then they can use it on a different item. So its never a 100% loss.
People will spend less if the item is worth less to them and get outbid. When your rolling dice, everyone rolls on the smallest of upgrades because you might as well. When you have to spend something suddenly it becomes a coss/benefit analysis.
This doesn’t really happen but if it did they would be giving away their gold to the other raiders.
When dealing with pugs you never really know how the master looter will handle anything nor what their knowledge of the game is because you’ve never met them.
It works exactly like DKP does as it rewards players raiding every week to earn points. The only difference from DKP is that the points can be earned in other pug groups and spent outside of raids. So it’s basically DKP system with a currency and value attached to it and it allows people to be more flexible with their raid schedule over being in a dedicated DKP group.
I would say Bliz is now still testing the looting system.
If you still remember, Bliz TW already removed GDKP ban on TW servers. NA & EU sever still ban GDKP. Looks like a pair of comparative samples for me. Also, personal loot, did Bliz eliminated it as an option to consider?
i want to come and try this but you all are scaring me away your here begging for gdkp back? my god this is the very last chance to have a good wow again