I have never “swiped” a day in my life. Seems all the gdkp hate is actually just an ignorant assumption its all gold buyers.
Which simply means if blizzard could adequately enforce their own ToS against RMT you’d have no reason to be against them.
Hard pass.
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There’s really two groups in GDKPs.
- Swipers
- Non-swipers hoping to run with a swiper
Being in group 2 doesn’t really make you any better. Group 2 is what makes it hard to enforce.
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If that was true then the easy solution would be to ban gold buyers/sellers and bots and there would be no GDKPs.
I mean I agree - but Blizzard have shown they just can’t completely ban every gold buyer/seller and bots.
Therefore the best option is to ban GDKP’s, because they are predominantly based on swiping/gold buying. Just because literally every individual in the raid isn’t buying gold, doesn’t matter.
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I’ll be for GDKPs returning.
But only if LFR is implemented to combat the inevitable shift ‘pugging’ makes; where every pug group is a GDKP.
This is like saying, “just make crime illegal”.
You’re never going to get rid of botting or RMT. It’s just how much do you want to keep kneecapping it.
They could raise our subs to $100 a month to pay for GMs to monitor every zone and instance… You’d still have stuff that slipped through. You could have a forensic accountant monitoring transactions… Something looking normal will be RMT.
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Very popular with non swipers.
So Blizzard should ban swipers, that is something everybody agrees on.
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They have the capability to detect gold buying and issues bans. They have instead decided to give slaps on the wrist and largely ignore it.
They have logs that show every transaction and every item every player has ever traded/mailed/bought on the AH. They only need to flag a player and look at their logs.
You’d only need one GM to get rid of a large portion of the bots but blizzard’s corporate structure makes them rely on user reports for everything.
They have the capability to do all of this and yet they don’t.
Hate to say it, but GDKP being gone has had absolutely 0 effect on the botting situation. Now people just buy gold to level up 90 characters through SM at like 20g a run.
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By that logic ban the AH, because swipers/bots use the AH too and just because literally every individual using the AH isn’t buying gold, it doesn’t matter it is predominantly a method that bots and swipers use for laundering money/goods
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One guy could “join” a GDKP and buy a garbage item for 10k gold and the group gets 1k each.
This could be legit or it could be RMT. Do you take everyone’s gold? The one person? What if Bhelen was not actually in on it?
Why do people even mention this tired and extinct idea? You’re literally just meme’ing at this point.
Why do you keep asking for GDKPs to come back?
You’re not getting it. If you were reasonably intelligent you’d realize they can never add it back for SoD. Maybe you’ll get it next seasonal set up. Maybe.
EQ doesn’t have an AH for the first several months of every TLP… People RMT heavily and just do it via trade.
Except it isn’t. The AH is a fundamental part of the game. GDKP’s exist purely to allow swipers to swipe their way to BIS, and for everyone else who aren’t swiping to profit off the swiped gold.
Banning GDKP’s was the right decision, and hopefully no amount of swiper tears will bring it back.
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And a large portion of it is botted gold and laundering gold to gold buyers.
Your logic that because someone who bought gold and gave it to someone who didnt buy gold in a gdkp is reason to ban them would also apply to the Auction House.
If you put up a BoE and someone who RMT’d bought said item would you be implicit in the transaction? And if so, does that justify banning the entire AH just to stop it?
So I was in a huge power gamer GDKP guild in EQ on a no bind/free trade server. One of the scariest moments was that we had a full on plat duper launder money in one of our runs.
The plat duper had his friend (a guildie) buy gear, outbidding everyone then they’d sell the gear to muddy what was real and what was duped. The duped plat gets spread to 71 other people then they spread it further.
Swipers use this method in WoW to muddy RMT gold. It gets very messy to establish intent.
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Yes, and Blizzard have said as much and acknowledged that since banning GDKP’s it has been much harder for swiper gold to be laundered.
Nah, because GDKP’s primarily exist to convert swiper gold into gold for everyone else. I’m sorry, no amount of whataboutism is going to get your favourite swiper game mode restored. It’s gone, Blizzard are happy with the result.
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And posting BoEs and crafted consumes for inflated prices on the AH doesn’t?
It’s not “whataboutism” it happens all the time.
GDKP WAS A CANCER TO SOD!!
It encourages people ti buy gold to get geared.
Those dont have gold don’t get gears!
It is bad for SOD and any game!
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