If you don’t have gold I gave other options, join guilds and gear up with alt runs as many do that or just do 5s teams and farm points and in a couple weeks you’ll have S3.
I understand that bit and don’t disagree if a guild will take you.
I’m specifically talking about GDKP
Ah I don’t have a dog in that race, I like GDKPs but I also know how to make gold without buying it so I can see why it’s a problem when many do buy it.
I don’t know why people praise these so much as money makers. I saw someone try and make a raid group that I used to go to into one of these and you needed 400g just to enter the raid. They said it was to keep the poor out. Even then they didn’t say anything about getting gold back.
I left the raid group quickly after they switched over to that method.
A lot buy it and it’s a massive issue. A new player may read this chat, can’t get into an alt run, and decide to risk thier account just to get gold for gdkps.
Don’t blame you that sounds like a scam and disrespectful
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Thing is that if you remove the RMT aspect, I genuinely love GDKPs because I work a lot but I have gold saved up via AH and my profs and just playing the economy so I spend time people would spend grinding toons into grinding gold in order to exchange that to gear out my toons.
Often times I prefer GDKPs too because when you pay people you get higher quality and geared raiders and it makes the run way faster and smoother.
Don’t do dumb minor things, never get banned.
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Yeah like if the Rmt element was gone it could be viable but issue is a lot do it. It ruins the game for all.
Paying to simplify the game. Don’t people enjoy a challenge anymore? I’m a healer, I’m goign to get either normal dps who avoid things or high-dps who “MUST PARSE IN FIRE”. I’ll heal them both, but high-dps =/= more highly skilled. Most of them bought their gear…right? IN gdkps? INstead of playing the game. Maybe thats why they suuuck at mechanics.
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To put in context if I did a MH run with my guild of geared players who know what they’re doing, we clear it in roughly 2 - 3 hours assuming little to no wipes.
If I did that same run in a GDKP with everyone being at top gear, top spec, top skill and knowing all fights we can clear in 1 and a half hour or less especially if the group is stacked.
Difference is that in GDKP runs, you can customize the group to be the most effective possible for clears where as in traditional guild runs you have such a wide mix of guildies/classes and it always won’t be optimal unless you’re running world first stuff.
In this context, it makes more sense time wise for people to do GDKPs because they are guaranteed a faster performance.
I got a really thick skin when it comes to that kind of stuff but that doesnt excuse the other party for being a jerk. One doesnt have anything to do with the other.
If youre in a position to judge and you notice someone struggling there is nothing wrong with pointing it out but there is a way to do that without being stupidly aggressive and offensive.
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Hate speech and discriminatory language is inappropriate, as is any obscene or disruptive language. Threatening or harassing another player is always unacceptable, regardless of language used. Violating any of these expectations will result in account restrictions. More serious and repeated violations will result in greater restrictions.
-in game code of conduct
and if you think that’s “modern snowflakes” here’s an excerpt from the 2008 ToS
Rules Related to “Chat” and Interaction With Other Users.
Communicating with other Users and Blizzard representatives is an integral part of the Program and is referred to in this document as “Chat.” You understand that Blizzard may record your chat sessions and you consent to such monitoring or logging. Your Chat sessions may be subject to monitoring, logging, review, modification, disclosure, and/or deletion by Blizzard without notice to you. Additionally, you hereby acknowledge that Blizzard is under no obligation to monitor Chat, and you engage in Chat at your own risk. When engaging in Chat in the Program, or otherwise utilizing the Program, you may not:
Transmit or post any content or language which, in the sole and absolute discretion of Blizzard, is deemed to be offensive, including without limitation content or language that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, sexually explicit, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable, nor may you use a misspelling or an alternative spelling to circumvent the content and language restrictions listed above;
Carry out any action with a disruptive effect, such as intentionally causing the Chat screen to scroll faster than other users are able to read, or setting up macros with large amounts of text that, when used, can have a disruptive effect on the normal flow of Chat;
Disrupt the normal flow of dialogue in Chat or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other users including without limitation posting commercial solicitations and/or advertisements for goods and services available outside of the World of Warcraft universe;
Sending repeated unsolicited or unwelcome messages to a single user or repeatedly posting similar messages in a Chat area, including but not limited to continuous advertisements to sell goods or services;
Communicate or post any user’s personal information in the Program, or on websites or forums related to the Program, except that a user may communicate his or her own personal information in a private message directed to a single user;
Use bots or other automated techniques to collect information from the Program or any forum or website owned or administered by Blizzard;
Harass, threaten, stalk, embarrass or cause distress, unwanted attention or discomfort to any user of the Program;
Cheat or utilize “exploits” while playing the Program in any way, including without limitation modification of the Program’s files;
Participate in any action that, in the sole and absolute opinion of Blizzard, results or may result in an authorized user of the Program being “scammed” or defrauded out of gold, weapons, armor, or any other items that user has earned through authorized game play in the Program;
Belonging to another person with the intent to impersonate that person, including without limitation a “Game Master” or any other employee or agent of Blizzard;
That incorporates vulgar language or which are otherwise offensive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
Subject to the rights of any other person or entity without written authorization from that person or entity;
That belongs to a popular culture figure, celebrity, or media personality;
That is, contains, or is substantially similar to a trademark or service mark, whether registered or not;
Belonging to any religious figure or deity;
Taken from Blizzard’s Warcraft products, including character names from the Warcraft series of novels;
Related to drugs, sex, alcohol, or criminal activity;
Comprised of partial or complete sentence (e.g., “Inyourface”, “Welovebeef”, etc);
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No it is still modern snowflakes cause even with a bigger ToS no one cared and no one enforced it as hard as today, people are more toxic now trying to ban others instead of trying to figure out the situations where as before people are much more willing to hear people out.
I don’t report people I ain’t sensitive.
Oh it was enforced, I distinctly remember getting a stern talking to a few times from GMs to watch my language when I was 15 and “edgy”.
I recommend you grow up and stop yelling at strangers in a video game
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Or stop being so trash that you get called out for being trash, feedback goes both ways and if you choose to live in an insulated bubble then it will get popped real quick.
Please explain to me how telling players they’re trash helps anyone?
Do you sit in eye of the storm screaming at everyone instead of playing the match?
Do you call people trash all dungeon distracting everyone from just playing?
clap you’re so daring and special.
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Being called trash isn’t always offensive, often times people only do that when you are making big mistakes and often times it’s dumb mistakes that people will expect you to know in a 15 year old MMO.
When people call me trash I ask why, I understand what i’m doing wrong and I don’t just cry and whine about it.
This generation of people need to start understanding that fostering only positivity is incredibly toxic and leads to a community full of unskilled people.
I hope more people report you, the game would be better without people like you
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And it’s this kind of childish, backwards logic nuance that this community has and this ToS emboldens.
When you’re the one getting banned because people genuinely dislike your skill level and want you removed in the same automated system you’re abusing to report others, I hope you maintain that same ignorant energy.