45k per tick and doing less healing than an embellishment on a core healing ability just isn’t it chief, only giving it 20% this week was nothing short of insulting.
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Hearing this makes me sad I wanted to q it with Ama’s ele tomorrow.
I played it with his Ele a few days ago and we farmed. You only really run in to serious issues with Holy right now once you get to around 2100.
pom buff was actually cracked though, haven’t queued real 3s since last weekend but if a decent but not incredible hpriest like me could get 2200cr weeks ago when it was garbo and pre-inflation, I imagine we won’t be running into problems caused by the spec itself until 2300-2400 (unless you count needing a feral as a spec problem, which would be a fair take)
I mean when I say the buff was significant, I mean I’m peaking at 2.7-2.8mil hps and steadily maintaining 1.1-1.4mil hps all game into rot comps while matching the other healer’s mana pool. you just need to let oracle go (unless the pom buff finally fixed its mana, not sure as I refuse to play it because the playstyle is boring)
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Archon is stronger in arenas? hmm… I’ll have to give it another go.
it is imo but it’s also considerably harder to play, you don’t have the same “oh **** buttons” in prem and you need to optimize your healing priorities more mindfully. its strength is literally just math; it double/triple/quadruple dips everywhere (sextuple if we’re talking about flash heal, archon’s biggest strength)
I can go over my spec and its several variations with you if you’d like, Fluent#1755
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thanks for that, much appreciated 
yea will jump into some arenas or shuffles and see how we go, and will hit you up with a couple questions I have
For what it’s worth, I’ve started a thread on the Priest sub-forum to explore ideas of how to reimagine renew, feel free to contribute to the discussion.
Feral+boomy+hpriest when?
I find class stacking to be morally reprehensible but I don’t care about my CR so I’ll queue anything else that’s in the playable range
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I got 2100 done in Shuffle the day of the buffs too, the PoM one of course was fine but this post is specifically about how lackluster the state of Renew currently is; it’s a hero tree agnostic pov.