390 in wpvp isn’t low. They were less geared than me lol.
your ST as BM is average with the aoe build…
Edit: you can’t run a ST build in a m+ dungeon, you’re stuck with the same aoe build for every dungeon because you can’t possibly go to a m+ and only do ST, with BM if you spec ST you don’t have Multi shot, you don’t have beast cleave, you don’t have kill cleave.
Havoc is a 10 button rotation right now but ok
Still say Blizzard ought to do what FFXIV did and have a separate Talent Tree/Abilities for PvP only.
Keep PvP to PvP and PvE to PvE
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MM will be fine, look at hunter discord. The changes made to salvo are actually a positive now being able to control when it fires
Saying:
And then saying this right after:
Made me actually laugh out loud. You should do some research, you’ll see Havoc has more to their rotation than you think.
I guess I don’t see the problem with having different specs be good at different things within the same class.
You have the AOE spec, and the ST spec. Both are the same class, use very similar gear, and both are ranged, and you can freely swap between them.
Highly doubt that . It takes longer to fill a 5 man heroic dungeon compared to a 10-15 person ( both teams would be 20- 30 players ) random BG at all times of the day now. It was probably true in SL but the PvP population in DF has grown .
Wow 10 whole buttons. Have you tried a mage or a monk? I don’t have enough keybinds using a Tartus AND a shift key modifier with this guy, meanwhile my DH action bars are half empty.
sucks when you don’t engage in the only content where the spec you like is remotely good, full ST raid.
You even swap to MM for council because it does 47k more dps than BM and that’s comparing the best MM to the best BM, on average the gap widens.
cast frostbolt?
doing a spinning kick… so many buttons
In PvP, MM is still incredibly OP even without Double Tap.
Taking it out just made the spec not get an almost guaranteed free kill when the CD was up.
Lol.
I WISH that was my only spell, I actually have over 30 buttons I can press that have an effect IN COMBAT.
I agree blizzard needs to nerf BM hunter immediately
BM isn’t bad in keys. The data from subcreation puts BM and MM on the same level most weeks, and within 1 tier of each other on the others, before trying to correct for skill bias.
I don’t think you understand. I have 10 buttons in my rotation, not including mobility or other cooldowns. My actionbar on my DH is full. Havoc is a much more well-rounded spec now than it was from Legion through SL.
It’s not just what spells you can press for your basic DPS rotation, for example my monk has three offensive CD’s, 4 defensive CD’s, another CD that can be used for both (Touch of Karma), 2 stuns and an interrupt, 3 spells I can use as movement, 1 of which also doubles as a damage spell.
You can’t say “I don’t use X spell for damage so it’s not part of my rotation, therefore your non damaging spells are also not included”. Your entire kit should be used to be as effective as possible. My DH has thirteen spare action bar slots and that includes EVERYTHING they have access to added to my bars, my monk with the same action bar setup has ran out of buttons.
The loss of Double Tap is a loss of player agency. I enjoyed the option of using Double Tap at opportune times. The flat 10% cooldown reduction may be an overall buff to DPS, but it is dull as hell. WoW is a game and should be FUN!
yeah…pvp needs to be the LAST consideration for literally anything.
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