It’s already pretty much self cast for shadow and making it only self cast for healers you might as well remove it from the game and buff shadow accordingly.
Demo got nerfed because its broken. Stop trying to copium your way into thinking otherwise.
It’s already pretty much self cast for shadow and making it only self cast for healers you might as well remove it from the game and buff shadow accordingly.
Demo got nerfed because its broken. Stop trying to copium your way into thinking otherwise.
That combined with the changes will make it look like they not only overnerfed demo, but also overbuffed fire mages.
I would just tell people in my guild to discuss it after raid so I don’t have to hear it ![]()
Agreed. PI should have never been a targetable cast. Too much whining from the peanut gallery. “GIF MEH PI NAO!” “WTF?! Y U NO GIF ME PI?!” “U SCRUB!”
Everyone felt they deserved it over everyone else. That’s why, when I do play my priest, I give it to myself. Start of the fight and burn phase.
I’m all for PI being only self-targetable. But I think Priests should get compensated for this utility loss.
It sounds as harsh as AMZ nerf.
Hey people wanted class specific buffs sooo priest now has pi.
Any good guild will view PI as a modifier, and not look at “top dps” as the sole qualifer.
I’m just surprised some priests haven’t hit on the idea yet that their own damage has been pre-nerfed to compensate for the existence of PI, the way some ret paladins used to complain about being able to buff party members (yes, this actually happened).
This is why we can’t have nice class abilities.
Make it personal use only.
You can’t change my mind.
Rank cheesing has been a thing since ranks were created. If it’s fm, pi, having the correct buffs, lust at the time for you, killing the fight the fastest. There about 10 different things to put a player at the top. Whining about it does not help. If a good guild is reviewing your logs they will see the lack of PI. If f they don’t, it’s not really a guild you want to go to.
I don’t need PI to top the boards, but it certainly helps. At the end of the day, the demo nerfs were surprisingly fair. They seem to be mostly targeted towards cheesing IP/banish.
A 5% ST lick is livable for a well rounded spec like demo.
If anything, more classes need something like PI. Give druids symbiosis back, give shaman shamanistic rage and the REAL windfury totem back.
PI is one of the few good ideas they have, don’t rag on it because this game is balanced by literal clowns.
The game does not revolve around you parsing high in warcraft logs and your details just to feel better than your teammates.
PI is incredibly useful for you even if you are not the one getting the buff because the boss you are trying to kill is getting down faster thanks to a person who benefits better from the haste buff or generally just does more damage than you.
i think PI is a bit weird in a game where damage meters are so prevalent.
replace it with a much weaker buff that affects every dps equally 
As usual this game is designed to make players hate each other. Who comes up with these things and no wonder the player base is in such decline.
PI isn’t new, just returning.
It’s fine, people crying about it are really grasping.
The new feature of it this expansion is allowing it to be cast on other players.
Last time we had it (Legion, shadow talent) it was just a DPS cooldown for the priest in question.
Yes. Passive 5% damage increase for having a priest on the group. Or maybe a passive 5% haste
I can finally get into keys.
IMO the minute the line was crossed from blizzard telling us its our job to police it and it needs addressing is them nerfing a spec for overperforming due to it.
Not the point of its livable.
It shouldn’t happen. You don’t nerf a middle of the pack spec because people getting preferential treatment in raids and getting PI skews the data. (and before anyone posts logs showing demo at the top, check the logs without PI and get back to me)
If anything, you change it so the warlock scales less with PI. You don’t nerf the base abilities.
If PI is causing a spec to overperform, the answer is to need PI, not the base spec.
If PI was so powerful other classes would be able to hang with demo locks with it. The problem is in demo locks.