Remove/lower titans grip dmg reduction penalty : ) from a Non warrior player

The “10%” for ferals was actually much larger than that.

Fury wars can already see we won’t gain ground next phase. We need near full P3 bis to pass what Sin rogues do right now

Guys why won’t anyone let me heal Algalon in my ret gear?

I’m BIS holy spec but still people won’t let me join them wth???

Do you think you actually made a point here?

Wait… the fury didn’t get the joke let me explain the joke.

Okay then. Provide your own.
I went after somewhat BIS. Best weapon. Best trinks.

PS

I play a Warrior main and run Ulduar 25 with my guild. I am typically top 5 for DPS and I’m fine with that. I get the job done.

One thing I think people are overlooking is the gear dependency is Warriors rely on. If I max out arpen and dual wield volds I’m going to be top DPS. Warriors just need to chill for a bit. Ulduar is a low point for us in the gear curve. Our time will come.

This. The complaints are mainly from people without dual Voids. Even with one Void my Warrior feels a lot more competitive.

Arp soft cap didn’t make as much difference as I expected though. It’s the weapon upgrade where you start to “feel it”.

I think the Sims are right. SM wielding Warriors will do quite well and the rest will be average (strong on cleave).

The simulations show this just won’t play out like you think. If you’re top 5 every fight you likely have really bad casters and DKs

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Feral druids were going to jump up higher too.

Explain why you didn’t have to wait, like rets.

Ask the devs, not me.
But my answer is that warrs scale differently with end game. And ferals were behind Warrs in OH Wrath.

this is a lie. they outscale most specs and end up at the top of dps in icc, just not #1. QQ stop lying. it’s fine

a lot of upcoming fights are cleave too, which will massively boost your #s

If only there was some way we could predict what those more powerful weapons would be… If only there was some way we could… I dunno… simulate the impact those changes might have.

Ah well. It’s a brand new game so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see huh?

:roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes: :roll_eyes:

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Warriors gain VERY little next phase if they’re BIS or near BIS now. ToGC Heroic weapons are 258 ilvl… So if you have 252 weapons now they’re basically a side-grade, and in many cases unusable since they’re polearms, or a downgrade because they’re heavily itemized on something like expertise…

Aside from Tribute cloak and a couple other items there’s really not that much in TOGC that’s very exciting after the Ulduar Ilvl buffs…

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I’m assuming your guild is incredibly bad if you’re top 5 on boss dmg regularly lol.

There are warriors in guilds who manage it, but they’re usually head and shoulders skill/gear wise above everyone else. Ahlandou is usually top 3 in bipolar, but he’s 240 ivl and has been the best war dpsing war in the world since before Naxx… and he’s still losing to locks with a significantly lower GS.

Ahlaundoh literally caters his entire raid and fight strats around his parses. 99.99% of warriors cannot do that. As I said, if you are top 5 boss dmg in your guild as a fury warrior, you are in a bad guild.

I heard some of the premium games use these things called public test realms… wouldn’t that be good!

youve spread consistent misinformation that is very easy to verify as such by actually going to logs

you cant say “I use log data” when logs show data wildly different than what youre saying

you can hit the softcap for ArP in Ulduar. THeir damage is still bad. According to sims, their damage remains bad. ArP is nerfed in this WotlK Patch. The “muh scaling” is a myth.

Warriors scale in parallel with other classes, about middle-upper of the pack, with classes like assassination getting even more DPS in Ulduar than warriors did. Reaching hard armor cap in ICC will help them at least scale more than assassination does but not by much and the current massive gaps in DPS will not be closed by enough to adequality change rankings.

Why look at Sims when you can look at logs for Ulduar?
You don’t need to Sim anything.

Open up logs. Go to Rankings. Filter out by warriors. Write down the numbers. Then do the same for Ferals. Then get hammered and look at warlocks/assa/uDKs.

You say I “spread misinformation” and you are yet to provide a single bit of information that you claim to be correct.

I have actually provided links to fights, individual players & wowhead logs weekly analysis. You’ve done absolutely nothing.

What’s “false” about saying that feral is ahead of Fwarr by ~1k dps in ST. And that’s at top tier level. Both warrior & Feral, if both are at 80-82 parse - will have practically identical DPS. And that’s after Fury was higher in DPS prior to Ferals.

I don’t understand why you pick on Ferals? Why not pick on Assa rogues? 3 button routation. Go pick on them lol Ferals, arguably, the hardest PvE rotation in the game. It should be rewarded.

what gives