It’s not circular…retail is a very definitive ending point to the development progression of WoW.
I think what you meant to say is that you think it’s a slippery slope fallacy. A slippery slope it certainly is, but it’s no fallacy.
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It is always the cry-bullies that trot out the most insufferable foot-in-mouth insults when they think they have someone pinned.
Jordan Peterson is useful for one thing and one thing only: mocking stupid people online. That you can so easily be baited by a well known meme from an actual interview where the idiot interviewer pulled the exact stunt you and Red have tried is beyond hilarious. You saw Peterson and thought you had some gotcha when the entire point of the meme has nothing to do with him and you END UP BEING THE MEME IN YOUR ATTEMPT TO DUNK.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PS - Jungian Psychology is neat and all but needs to either give up trying to be special and join a proper theistic school of thought or drop the pretense entirely.
Are you using empirical evidence again to refute reasoning?
There’s that lying hypocrisy again…
It is a fallacy because we aren’t Blizzard and no change has any relationship to any other change. Blizzard’s own featured bullet point about “Some Changes” for TBCC renders any slippery slope argument default fallacious since a stated design goal is to make changes as Blizzard sees fit.
You’re really really bad at all of this.
Nah, I just don’t think you get that I’m kind of over you. You’re an exhausting individual to discuss a simple topic with because you gain some weird sort of pleasure out of disambiguating the irrelevant portions of an overall point as a way to detract from that point…even though it’s a fool’s errands because at the end of the day, you have jack. You’re frontin’!
Dual spec is not in the game.
For a reason.
Could that change in the future? Uh…maybe? Evidence shows that dual spec not existing right now was intentional. So…some of us fall on the side of Occam’s Razor, where we simply assume that because it isn’t in the game now, and Blizzard is on record saying that’s intentional…that they haven’t thought to add it because it would be in contrast to that intention, and that is demonstrated in the fact they…haven’t added it.
I said I was trying to not be insulting and asked you to stop.
You ignored that advice. I gave you a warning. You ignored it.
So it’s not hypocritical, I gave you fair warning.
This could have been a reasonable discussion. You opted to continue being condescending. Cue predictable results: my warning enacted in to reality.
So yeah, I’ll condescend you back, as long as you continue to engage in Jordan Peterson-esque pedantry.
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The “So what you’re saying is…” is a tell-tale sign they’re just trying to trap you. At which point I know an honest discussion has taken the next bus outta town.
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Well this is embarassing…
Yup, at the present moment.
I’m sure, which is always subject to change. Read your contracts.
No, it doesn’t. Evidence shows that in '07 it was intentional. TBCC’s very existence invalidates this as a data point.
You clearly don’t understand Occam’s Razor if you had to support it with this many additional variables. Hahahaha…
Oh please, you were passive aggressively insulting from the start, and stating that you’re trying to not insult someone is no different when someone starts a statement by saying “I mean no offense, BUT…”
I’m only left wondering if you believe your own BS or if you think you can get away with this stupidity.
“I have a right to lie and be rude while whining about you making me feel uncomfortable!!”
Okay Karen.
No, it’s a pretty good example of circular logic.
Dual spec was added to the game.
For a reason.
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…in WOTLK (read:AFTER TBC).
For a reason.
Exactly, they just didn’t have time to add it in TBC.
Something that can be corrected in TBC Classic 
Not always, as people can and should try to clearly and cleanly restate an opponent’s argument back to them to ensure everyone is on the same page. However, that would require Zipzo to actually engage upon a single, solitary point made rather than gripe about being victimized for quadrupling down on 2+2=5.
I don’t understand this. People ask for something that isn’t in the game and your counter to that is to say, “It’s not in the game.”
Good job, Sherlock. Maybe people wouldn’t ask for stuff that’s already there. Ever think of that?
Lmao, you couldn’t steel-man my argument in your wildest dreams if it was served to you on a golden platter. Go ahead and try? lol
You’ve spent all your energy focusing on completely irrelevant points of detail that there is just no reality in which you’ve actually considered my points accurately.
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This is a good point, people don’t ask for things that are already there, if anything they ask for things that are there to be removed, like world buffs.
The mere existence of TBCC makes any reference to past reasoning moot, especially since TBCC was specifically advertised with changes.
Yeah…OK. That’s possible. You have no evidence of that but, I mean, fair enough.
Adding it early wouldn’t be in-line with an accurate TBC experience either way.
Your points? So which end of the spectrum are you on now because you’re on a seesaw between “my opinion” and “objective facts.”
Is fire cold now?
Is red blue now?
Careful sometimes they become enraged when it’s mentioned that blizzard explicitly threw out #nochanges for TBC Classic.
Sometimes they jump to such crazy mental gymnastics to explain it they risk hurting themselves or others.
Maybe, though they had plenty of time to implement “respec relief” during TBC and chose not to, even defending the decision by explaining why the cost was appropriate.
The development of the assets for dual spec themselves would not have been the hard bit. It’s relatively simple to code. The hard bit is the integration and testing to ensure game balance.
As a developer myself (not in game dev) I can easily imagine that waiting for a class rebalance overhaul before deploying and testing a talent specialisation system would make sense. And that is exactly what they seem to have done, waited until the class rebalancing of WoTLK before then deploying the new system. It was deployed into l’ve a few months after WoTLK dropped.
I have no doubt that if it wasn’t for them waiting to see the class rebalances tested live in Nax for a few weeks they would have released it with the expansion itself or even the prepatch. But it seems highly unlikely that they saw it fitting into TBC from the comments made at the time.
Misattributing the point of the statement…
The reason that it’s not in the game is significant, because Blizzard had the option to put it in the game, and chose not to. Like you love to mention, this is TBCC. Not original TBC. So they had the benefit of hindsight available to them both prior and after launch.
And yet they did not add dual spec. 
Unless you’re insisting that they, I don’t know, forgot?
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You. Are. A. Liar.