soulfrost can go on a staff lol… It is literally BiS for EVERY caster…
Ok here ya go. Have the google doc that shows you’re an idiot, and why you’re wrong. Notice its not BIS for every class? See the spreadsheet weights are different for each class/spec? Strange how that works right? Even more strange after dude in the post here breaks down the stat weights you cant wrap your head around classes having a different stat prio. You should stop playing the game asap, and maybe get off the internet entirely.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQhUJP-KpFvQwgC8DWm39laCPB-0hPcIorSy7Q3yhc12hdsD0WsC7WVi1mp6SbIIeRryMQI0qcX_z77/pubhtml#
So this one dude’s list is your gospel? You apparently don’t even know how to read it. MH/OH is worse for every caster if you know how to read it…
You’re one of these people who want to argue just to argue. Read the spreadsheet (Which by the way is constructed by several members of the community, and proof read by the class discords lol). The staff is not BIS for every caster class. I guess you are the one who doesnt know how to read. Because adding the 2 together literally outweighs the staff for some classes. Reading comprehension is nice.
70 Stam, 47 Int, 36 Crit, 53 Haste, & 259 Spell Power = Zhar’doom, Greatstaff of the Devourer
46 Stam, 32 Int, 34 Hit, 47 Crit, & 301 Spell Power = Tempest of Chaos & Chronicle of Dark Secrets
Once again. I’ll take 42 more Spell power as the affliction warlock in the group. Just saying. It also has 2-3% hit already I don’t have to use in other items, has more crit for fillers. Sure, I want to cast more fillers with haste but ehh. Show me the math that tells me how many more casts I get off versus the base damage that I’m opt’ing for instead.
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Smash me in the face… ok then…
No MH/OH outweighs the staff for anyone hit capped and if you aren’t hit capped at this point you have no business raiding.
Go sim your gear set avoiding everything out of Hyjal except for the helm vs a BT set getting your 4pc and compare that set with the staff vs the mh/oh and the staff will win for every class, including locks. There is no reason to run hyjal that much. Illidan is the goal and will be the focus. Everyone will get out of hyjal asap. The only hope for them to get people to run it is to force it on us by delaying BT by a period of time.
The way you’re playing ties down other pieces, thus making your point valid and only valid during that exact point. But lets just say for arguments sake I want to replace [Ruby Drape of the Mysticant] with [ Royal Cloak of the Sunstriders]. No where does it say Sunstriders is better than Ruby but I could make the same argument about hit with ruby drape. Sunstriders is better imho than Ruby.
There are tons of ways to get hit capped. I suggest min/max that as well.
Also, tons of people raid Hyjal. I really do not care about your take on how I should take this game. At least I can state why I take things my way and explain them. More SP is good for me. You can’t argue that. All you’re saying is if I am missing hit, that I shouldn’t be raiding. Maybe taking hit off my back peice and putting on MH/OH opens up my back and weapons being a better overall package than yours.
Or maybe that’s why the guild I run with is 8/10?
You won’t even debate the simple math of it. Show me how haste, on paper is better than 42 extra spell power. I can also show you other pieces that I can drop hit off and getting better SP gear with as well.
Heck, sim full bis and compare… the staff wins by 50 dps
Run a ‘sim’. I don’t play a ‘sim’. I also don’t play with bots that react and play as though the sim does. Sims mean nothing in reality.
When have you played like a sim?
Then don’t look at BiS lists cause that’s how they are built lol… You can’t have your cake and eat it too
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I never said to look at BIS. I made the claim none of them are right. So not sure why you think I’m trying to eat my cake too.
so you want to run hyjal for weapons but you have no idea why because you don’t use sims and don’t trust bis lists? Hyjal is a distraction that will keep the average guild from seeing Illidan. BT will need full attention from those guilds.
I think the Hyjal items look neat.
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Cataclysm’s Edge is bis for arms warriors, and there’s a lot of other good loot in Hyjal as well for various classes.
No warrior will be arms in t6 or beyond
Flat out wrong, try again
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Do you mean Sunwell?
How do you think they get geared for sunwell? By being fury in BT
At least you just admitted you know nothing about warriors
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