Reins of the Blue Protodrake

I started in Wrath so naturally I did a lot of Wrath dungeons, including Utgarde Pinnacle, and I didn’t get it during my extended Wrath playtime. However, when it was brought back as part of TW, it dropped for me on the first time I did it during that TW week. Which surprised the hell out of me.

So long story short: it still drops. It shows on wowhead as available and although I’m not logged on atm, I presume it shows on the journal loot table. It is purely rng, as so many things are in this game. I’ve been doing the love mount quest since it was first introduced maaany years ago, and that mount still eludes me as does the Deathcharger’s Reins despite killing Lord Rivendare many, many etc times.

PS: The Dataforazeroth site shows ownership of the drake at 19%, so its not the hardest mount to get, going by those percentages.

Yes. You did.

You were unlucky hundreds of times before you got lucky, but you could have achieved the same results if the one time you got it was your first and only run.

Work is when you apply force to cause a change. Nothing changed between the hundreds of time you did ran it and didn’t get the mount.

No work was done.

It was all a complete waste of energy.

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No I didn’t. Getting a 1% mount after killing it two or three hundred times isn’t lucky, it’s expected. Because it’s a 1% mount.

Getting a 1% mount the first time I kill Skaldi? Yeah that’s luck.

Quit trying to redefine the word. It’s not going to work.

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Not how random works.

If, theoretically, there were a system where each run you didn’t get it increased your chances of getting it on the next run, then you would have worked for it.

But there isn’t. No kill contributed to your acquisition of it except the one you got it from.

Because it’s still random every time.

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I know how random works which is why I said getting a 1% mount in 300ish kills is expected, not guaranteed.

And it’s also not lucky.

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Then you understand how no work happened.

Nothing changed after each failure. Your chances neither improved nor declined.

No work was done at all.

And you’re still here defending that system in which all your time and effort was wasted until one day it magically wasn’t, with no input from you, because you’re emotionally attached to that extended period of wasted time.

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You make zero sense.

The “work” I put into farming that mount was days upon days of running that dungeon. Your bitterness or laziness, not sure which one it is, doesn’t change that fact.

Actually, I wasn’t defending anything. My first reply to you was saying your assumptions are nonsense. You were implying that everyone that has rare drop mounts got lucky and that’s a lie.

Do some people get rare drop mounts the first time they kill the boss, rare or open a box? Sure. Happens all the time. However, is someone “lucky” that has to kill the Lich King 1000 times before they get the mount? Absolutely not. That’s on the high end for that boss and would put them in the unlucky category.

I actually don’t care what Blizzard does with mounts at this point because they have ruined mount collecting. Why am I going to care about a mount being easier to get when I can probably find 15 different recolors of it else where?

They’re not even ashamed of what they’re doing anymore…

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Not work.

Work requires the energy spent to create a change, and nothing changed after any of those runs except the one that finally dropped it.

Yes.

Because a previous streak of being unlucky does not change the odds of any run.

It’s still equally random every time, so whenever it does happen is by definition pure luck.

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ROFL what? Nothing changed until it changed :rofl: :rofl:

You’re just trolling me now, right?

I can’t even take you seriously anymore.

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IIRC, I think I have that mount, and it took me a few runs to get it.

My departed mother, however, ran that dungeon for literal years before hers dropped.

But then she got Rivendare’s horse right away and it took me ages, same with the bird from that dungeon in Terokkar.

Exactly.

None of the runs you did where you didn’t get it changed anything. Thus no work was done.

Then, through no fault of your own, it decided to make one of them count and you got the mount.

You didn’t do anything differently. Nothing you had done in the past effected anything.

The game picked a day when you were allowed to finally have the mount, and it would have been that day regardless of how many previous days you had tried.

Have you ever?

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I don’t remember but I want to say no. I’m also fuzzy as to why I don’t have you on ignore. Could have sworn I put you there before you left two or three years ago. Maybe the “forever” option is a lie too.

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Which is a shame, because you’re one of the most fun people to talk to on these forums, despite your apparent resistance to reason.

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Ok that’s the second lie you told. Nobody thinks I’m fun.

LoL lets see. What does she say?

8 toons is kinda weak, i usually farm with 25 toons,

Are you talking about Deathcharger’s Reins? Is that one rare? I think I got it on my first run.

I think it had a chance to drop off the nexus raid too now doesn’t it

Don’t believe I’ve ever seen it drop in any group I’ve ever been in since Wrath.
I don’t really feel the drive to get these old mounts anymore though. The old models just clash too much with everything else now, and they need to just faithfully update them to modern standards.

For the most part yeah, I agree. Not all of them need updating though, in my opinion. Mounts like Invincible still hold up really well. The drake models though, protos and regular drakes…those need help. A lot of it, in fact. I would argue that the only proto drakes that hold up are the ones from Ulduar.