It’s been the only tool to use for pug M0s. There’s a dungeon section on the LFG tool. This allows you to form groups for current dungeons M0 and M+. I hope you enjoyed this free educational post about how to use the LFG tool. Go forth and make your own M0 group today!
It’s a slippery slope, if you let people queue for Mythic I can guarantee you they’d be asking for queues in +2 through +6 because those don’t have affixes so really those are the introduction…
Then they would ask for queues up to +13 and so on and so on.
From a difficulty standpoint yes M0 could be queued but it doesn’t serve any rule purpose.
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Again, no one uses it for that. People don’t run M0. It’s sole purpose of existence is the weekly mythic quest when that comes around for people who don’t bother with mythics.
It belongs in LFD.
Thanks for coming to my free ted talk session. Next time I have to school you it will be $35 USD via paypal.
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Exactly! If people feel it is que content then clearly think any 5 people can do it.
If that’s the case go into the LFG and grab 1 tank, 1 healer and 3 dps. Clear the easy content.
If all the people that claim they want to do M0 but don’t just because it isn’t in the queue would put it in the LFG tool, surprise surprise there’s a whole pool of players for M0.
If they don’t bother with mythics why do they want to complete the mythic weekly quest?
Nah
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What does this have to do with LFG?
How would m0+ finder be any different than normal or heroic grp finder?
People would still need to eventually queue up in FLG, if not in m0 then in m2…
People can play with whatever they want. If purple class does big damage ill take big damage. simple.
More than normal and heroics or as you suggest heroic+
Do you even know what you are suggesting?
If blizzard would implement something that would explain new players how to do m+ it would be nice. But not a m0+ finder lmao.
That is better idea than
You are coping really hard right now that your gatekeeping efforts (for no other reason then to stunt other players) will probably be rebuked soon enough. So sad for you. Your tears fill me with joy.
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remember garison follower missions?
You had to choose followers with specific abilities to increase your chance of success.
Seems that frame work could be used for a queue system for players not just followers.
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It may feel on par, but mechanically it isn’t.
I feel that normal raiding is on par (or sometimes easier) to LFR, doesn’t mean it’s true.
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Nothing is being kept from you or anyone else.
I’m not the one crying about M0 not being in the queue.
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People do m0 at expansion launch
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You’re right. There is zero reason that solo players should have access to group content as a solo player.
Though I am pretty sure you meant shouldn’t.
And yes there are multiple reasons why solo players shouldn’t have solo Que to group content at all levels.
There isn’t the tech to take AI players into mplus and raiding without breaking it and nerfing the content into the ground.
I’m not the one being selfish. Demanding a group based game cater to solo players is the solo players being selfish.
Anyone using the term gatekeeping is coping over their lack of success. No one is capable of gatekeeping you.
I suggest you look up the word gatekeeping so you don’t look silly.
I wouldn’t hold your breath.
you said its there to teach, but where are the lessons?
Oh, I still have to go to an external website to look up info, or just learn it on the fly or have past experience? So it’s not teaching me anything. Strange.
it already isn’t much different. That’s the point.
and the difference between 0 and +2 is far different from heroic to mythic. Again, if you can bring new players in with no exp in mmos or really gaming at all…and they can clear +10s no problem, then I can assure you that a 0 will be cheese for anybody with heroic gear. Youa re supposed to max out that “Adventurer” level gear to 8/8 to be able to be “properly geared” for a M0.
As others have pointed out, LFG is better as a teaching tool for world bosses and other events out in the open world. Where the consequences are virtually nill and the gear is basically just vendor loot.
Meanwhile M0 is barely any different from a Heroic, gives meh rewards (better than world content by far) but still less than what you would get from Mythic + dungeons. I do recognize that the gap is small, but again circle back to the minuscule gap between heroic and M0.
cool. we all know you can play the way you want buddy. Anything important to add to that, or did you just have to make sure we all knew that you had the same freedoms we did?
your argument is that the LFG tool itsself is to help learn and M0 is supposed to be a low consequence bit of content to teach.
Except again, the tool teaches you nothing. It just shows you that you can, in fact, invite people into your group. It doesn’t instruct you about team comp. Who to invite for this particular boost in difficulty or affixes or literally any instructions at all in any way shape and/or form.
Yes. I am suggesting that we just let M0 be queueable like a Heroic dungeon. Not really a big ask.
They won’t nor can they. It is too complicated of a topic. WoWhead and Icyveins and other sites literally have like spreadsheets and have to do rankings and stuff to teach you how to make a group.
Meanwhile in-game all you get to do is hit the “i” key on your keyboard and suddenly you can just jump into whatever difficulty your ilvl will allow.
No class. No teaching. No tutorial. No anything.
So having Mythic 0 be in LFG isn’t a learning tool, it’s just an impediment. I know from experience, that as a tank and healer…it can take anywhere from 15 minutes to 2-hours to find a group for M0 with the LFG tool because nobody does them. Everybody is running keys. And then the few people who are running them get so tired of looking that they give up and just go do something else because they don’t want to waste some unknown quantity of time hoping people sign up for your entirely unneeded dungeon difficulty.
Seriously, people in like 435 gear can do +5.
M+2 gives you 444 gear. People are literally already overgeared for M0 just by doing a few world quests.
so every couple of years? For like, three hours? Wow. we should totally impede an entire difficulty just for a couple of hours where most people are already overgeared for even the new expansion content…
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Name one thing I have made up? Don’t worry I’ll wait.
And no mods aren’t going to ban me because you dislike being told the facts. This isn’t an echo chamber for players with bad ideas to get patted on the back.
Nope. Mythic zeros are specifically designed to be entry content into mythic plus.
And you say I make things up.
I stop the spread of misinformation which is why I’m informing you that your posts and information is incorrect.
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I want a cookie. Where’s Grumbles??
LFG for mythic 0s isn’t my cup of tea. However they could make the interface a little more obvious for people who are new and trying to get into it. For those of us who’ve been around we know to look under the group finder > premade groups > dungeons. But for someone who’s just started playing, or coming back after 6-7 years, it might take a hot minute to figure out how exactly you get into the pool.
I say this, because I’ve had multiple people since early Shadowlands ask me how they even get into the mythic content. If I’m getting asked that numerous times a month, it’s an indicator that maybe we need to find a better way to funnel people into the right viewing area to access the posted lists.
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Yeah, and I feel like Blizz catered to them last season when they put in that weekly quest for four heroic dungeons that rewarded a decent piece of loot.
Even now this weekly quest is really as simple as opening LFG, looking for a group that says “Academy M0 x4 weekly,” and knocking it out in like an hour.
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Would they remove weekly lockout on mythic0?
They removed daily lockouts for heroic (when qued random)
While removing the mythic0 weekly lockout may seem insignificant at this point in the expansion.
It would be a MASSIVE change for week 1 of the expansion before the m+ season starts.
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At the store 
I’m not against qol updates or improvements. I’m just against solo proofing the game
Again I don’t disagree with you.
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Yes, lesser.
If they know where to find world boss, they know where to find m+ (that is if they even know what m+ is, but so they need to know what WB is so…).
Others also pointed out that m+0 finder wouldn’t solve what you are suggesting…
Yes that’s what I told you.
Yes, just that your idea is pointless.
So to solve that you suggest m0 finder to solve what exactly?
I mean what do you want them to be taught? Lvling dungeons already teach you how to heal, tank, dps, what healer, tank or dps rolle does, how to play the class you chose…
Are you suggesting the game should teach them what’s the best FOTM spec to get into m+?
This could be added some, like I said before I agree there should be some instructions to what m+ are and the specifics about it.
But it wont solve anything that heroic dungeons already do? You do realise there is no affixes at m0?
Its the same in every other mmo game. Cod wepon builds? Yes. LoL item and rune guide? Yes. Fortite forums/videos? Yes.
Almost every game requires you to do some external searching. Even SP ones.
Yes, that’s why there are multiple difficulties so people can LEARN.
It is like i explained multiple times…
No it dosen’t… Even if it did, you can do your own m0… And surprise, m0 isnt that different than m2!!!
You just described EVERY non-fotm class/spec ingame… Which is a different problem for different topic.
See? We don’t need m0+ finder…
That’s why nobody cares about it. Even if it was introduced as finder, nobody would run it, just like nobody runs heroics.
Your ‘‘idea’’ doesn’t solve this mate…