This is why I got say that the Scarlet Crusade was misunderstood. The same logic people use to talk nonsense about the Alliance (even though there’s a seriously lack of aggression against the Horde) it’s the same applied to the SC. These were a handful of survivors of an undeath genocide who only managed to keep fighting by ressurrecting the dead non-stop. Still, they’re portrayed like some fascist government in power who are exterminating those who are merely “different”.
This is almost tradition within the game. Instead of the Horde point of view being nothing more than that, a PoV, it takes over the narrative, contaminates everything and no one is allowed to disagree. Henceforth, so many contradictions, such as Scarlet Crusade getting hate from the entire Alliance, with zero members of the SC portrayed as part of the faction, while that same Alliance gets blamed for “acting like the SC”.
Redeem Hogger ( gotta have a faction leader for the riverpaw gnoll allied race and now that death doesn’t matter we can get him back!)
Villain bait Anduin, but let’s just kill him this time and find out afterwards that his sniveling pleas for help weren’t actually a world ending spell he was casting, oops… Oh well~
I’d enjoy seeing Turalyon made more interesting. The whole self-righteous righteousness of righteous heroic righteous acts of light….is as flavourful as tap water. It might even make him more than a 2 dimensional Mary Sue if he had some big conflicts occur.
For redemption?
Zul: So much flavour. He would have been incredible as a Horde character. This guy had such a great story and mind.
Redeem Arthas. The man who made bad/poor decisions, but always with the most noble of intentions to do what he thought was the greater good for his people. I don’t want him to come back, but I want him to have more than some sappy faux “forgiveness” speech by Sylvanas which was nothing more for her and her spotlight than anything.
Villianbat Turalyon. I want a holy light crusade and for the alliance to be the aggressors and Turalyon coming back and seeing how open we (both sides even) are with warlocks existing and demon hunters still flitting about and decides to do something about it.
This is a super common sentiment, and totally in line with Blizzard’s lame, predictable, nihilist writing, but… What would the point of that even be? Ever since he came back, all he’s done is suck, fail, and embarrass himself.
Oh noes, Turalyon’s gone evil? … okay, who cares? Give it five minutes - his pants will be around his ankles, his sword will have gotten lost, and maybe Illidan will have popped back in to give him another wedgie.
Turalyon would have to pull the mother of all 180°s to even come close to anything resembling a threatening villain - not in terms of “alignment” but just in sheer competency.
The Alliance has lost so much more than the Horde during the course of Warcraft it’s not even comparable lol. The Horde had very few notable or interesting characters, so much to the point that the first four expansions are practically dedicated to killing Alliance characters or Alliance affiliated characters.
Especially considering that the pre-cursor to WoW is the slaughtering of the Humans of Lordaeron. When WotLK is all said and done, they don’t even allow characters like Tirion to be reasonable ((and aid the Alliance in the re-settling of Lordaeron, even though he would absolutely have been motivated to do so)). Archbishop Benedictus is written off as a Twilight Cultist, and dies. Theramore is destroyed. The Night Elves lose basically all of their territory in Ashenvale. The Worgen are introduced, and subsequently lose Gilneas to the Horde. Southshore is destroyed.
What does the Horde lose up to this point? Thrall is off being ****ing Green Jesus, Garrosh kills Carine, and the Alliance destroys Camp Taurajo AFTER the Alliance command ensures the inhabitants have been warned and given time to evacuate. The citizens of Southshore are given no such warning and are killed indiscriminately, though some do escape with their lives.
But hey, the Second Horde loss finally comes in MoP when Garrosh is defeated, and it’s not until WoD where he finally dies and the Horde has a loss! But in the same expansion MU Marrad dies on Draenor to equal the death of AU Ogrim Doomhammer