Some people no doubt were doing it that way because the regular Hearthstone and Dalaran Hearthstone have different cooldowns. There were plenty of portals in Legion Dalaran–upstairs and down–for a player to use, so those players probably didn’t feel they needed a Hearth in the Shrine or elsewhere.
Personally, most of my characters still have their hearths in the Shrine. A very few lowbies got ports to Legion Dalaran and set their Hearths there when the Shrine portals were removed.
Honestly, I would be far less annoyed about the portal removals* if low level characters could access the portals in Boralus/Dazar’alor (once a player has already opened them on a higher level). But apparently we can’t have any shortcuts (beyond mage ports) for characters below level 58.
*assuming Blizzard makes the Dalaran basement portals available to questing characters like they said they would, as well as bringing back the CoT portal like Ion said they would.
And even if some players were using that as an optional “virtual faster hearthstone cooldown”, it still in no way requires a character to forego current content in favor of old content.
A low level character isn’t setting their hearth in “old content” because Legion is already in their character’s future. A level capped character who is actually engaged in current content doesn’t really have an incentive to set their hearth in Legion Dal because the Dalaran hearthstone exists, and it’s unlikely the virtual fast hearth CD would be more useful to them than a hearth to current content.
In fact, the only situation I can see where a player might feel incentivized to set their hearth in “old content” is if they already are not engaged in Blizzard’s current content, in which case the problem is Blizzard’s current content, not that Legion Dalaran is too convenient to pass up.
Actually it is not irrelevant. Businesses tend to put their resources into profitable ventures, so they would very much monitor each game independently.
The purpose to lump those numbers all together when reporting to shareholders is simple. It reduces the number of questions they will be asked by those shareholders.
For example, if they did not lump them together, and time spend in WOW is 50% less than time spent in Diablo, the leadership of the company will want to know why. Is it because of poor game development, a changing trend in what people are playing, other reasons?
Also, because the data is tangible, they will use such data to incentivize their teams. Increase player time spent in X game and you will receive X bonus.
Finally, companies will use such data to see how well their resources were spent developing new content. Number of people and percentage of time spent in new content for example.
If people are spending time sitting in New Dal vs sitting in BFA capitals, then that would lead leadership to believe that people are not playing the new content.
If people are not playing the new content, why was money spent on developing and maintaining it. And most importantly, do we have the right people working on the project.
Yet you said that the vast majority said New Dal. even though they already had a hearth set there. Are you talking about during Legion? For there were times when I had a double hearth set there so that I could quickly return if needed. But mostly, my personal hearth was set to whatever zone I was questing in.
And even if they are not engaged in the current content, they wouldn’t set their hearth in New Dal, because they have a hearth there already. I would bet the hearth would still be set to BfA just in case they need to go there for something. For example, mining or herbing.
Reminds me of my dad when I was a kid. He would buy the worst cereal, snacks, and desserts imaginable. Our cabinets were full of stuff neither he nor anyone else would touch.
Us: “How come you don’t bring home, you know… stuff that’s actually edible?!”
Him: “because you’ll eat it, and then I’ll have to go shopping again, duh.”
… Which begged the question, why bother putting anything in the cabinets and at all… And he mumbled something half-heartedabout being a “good provider”.
link?
i don’t recall making any claim about the quantity of players who put their hearth in Dal, because until this thread, I wasn’t aware people put their hearths in Dal.
it’s not my post history you want to review.
it’s the posters in this thread (and the other multiple portal threads) who made the claims.
Yes, WoW is included.
No, WoW is not singled out.
Thank you for confirming what I said.
I didn’t claim WoW was excluded.
i don’t understand what you’re trying to accomplish here.
I said something which you’re in agreement with, and even when you’re in agreement with me, you still want to argue about… what?
while the “lumping” may make reporting easier, it has no internal benefit.
in fact… it would be detrimental and disingenuous for a company with multiple franchises to lump them all together, when one or more of those franchises could be sinking ships.
Leadership requires a much more intimate breakdown of statistics.
the “proof” was already posted here… by other people.
read the thread, i’m not going to sift through a month old thread to rehash stuff which has already been discussed. (and which isn’t really relevant to the topic)
It’s still DIRECTLY related to WoW, even if it isn’t EXCLUSIVELY related to WoW. Their strategy is to increase engagement metrics, which include both “time spent” and “DAUs”, and this directly relates to all of their properties. So I’m not quite sure what you think I confirmed for you.
Some of the reasons I no longer have an active sub with for WoW, nor do I spend money in the WoW store, or with ActiBlizz at all, for that matter.
Meanwhile, I’m having a blast in FF14 doing all the things that the WoW dev team, or whoever pulls their strings, has been taking away/restricting severely in WoW. Not to mention spending money in Square Enix’s store for some small things.
The money I spent in/for FF14 could have been spent in/for WoW if they had only just given up taking the things away from Wow that make it a fun game.
That’s what happens when you ignore customer complaints, you lose customers, and I’m not just speaking of myself either. There are many, many guilds in FF14 populated mainly by “WoW refugees”. Are you getting that nugget of info there ActiBlizz? You’ve ignored the concerns of your WoW customers for so long you’ve actually driven millions of dollars into the hands of a rival company, if not more. I don’t mind telling you that that was pretty damn stupid, I’m talking blow drying your hair in the shower stupid here. There’s only one thing to say to that . . .
It does so seem that Blizzard is indeed narrowing this ‘world’ done and greatly.
From the actual ‘open world’ (which is this game’s main selling point) down to …this.
This hybrid stepchild that seems hellbent on becoming just another strictly linear progressive game.
It’s almost as if…well as if the current devs don’t want us, or new players either, to see the old world anymore. Why, we’d be able to COMPARE! We’d be able to …to…(dare I say it?)
…to MAKE UP OUR OWN MINDS!
We could then play what and where we wanted, and in our own way!
Overcome by the horror of such vile philosophies, he fans himself with an exquisite Mandarin fan, whose ivory struts are embossed with counter-sunk calligraphy and the sleeves between are of the finest parchment
Same here.
I had no desire to leave WoW. Been playing nearly two years and was loving it till I hit WoD the first time.
I got past the no flight thing by just staying in old content.
I’d have kept playing forever and spending tons of $$$ on extras (mounts and such) had they just LEFT ME ALONE to play my game.
Nope…they remove my MOP temple portals that werent harming anyone. Then start removing even more portals.
Enough is enough.
I go over to ESO and I probably wont be coming back.
THEY drove me away.
I had no intention of leaving WoW, but I aint going to keep having tools I use be stripped from me over some lie that its to make my world ‘bigger’, when it was big enough as it was.
They want to irritate me. If I wanted a game to irritate me for no good reason Id go play golf again.
Two years playing this game wasted. $1500+ wasted.
At this point I wish Id never have bothered trying the game out and used that money for a nice band saw instead.
I hate to be that guy but do you really think you can reason with someone who is just trolling all the time? He is for this change and doesn’t even care that other people don’t like it. Why waste your time? The portal change sucks. Almost everyone knows it except the four people who continue to troll in this thread.
Perculia on Wowhead said a similar thing in that the portal change doesn’t make fundamental sense.
Consolidating portals but then leaving out portals for two capital cities? That makes no sense. ThunderBluff and IF are iconic capital cities and should be treated such.
For all the talk of tradition the current dev team doesn’t like the traditions of the previous dev team regarding anything they built into the game.
I think they just want people to not be able to take low level alts to places fast. Otherwise they wouldn’t make the portals in Boralus/Dazar’alor only available to lvls 110+.
Well that defies their argument for helping new players to the game. Which is it Blizz?
Are you trying to prune portals to help new players so they are not overwhelmed or are new players forced to buy boosts because leveling has been made even more tedious with portal prune?
look up post 10608. That was your post where you said it.
You tend to be all over the board here. You were posting that there wasn’t a breakdown, now you’re saying there would be. It’s ok though, it isn’t one or the other, it is both. When the company leadership is giving a higher level overview, they lump stuff together. When asked/or needing to give a breakdown, they do that as well.
Very true. They want people to play the game in a very specific manner. Gone are the days when we could choose what to do and how we want to do it.
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