Here another way of looking at the moving portals in needed areas.Has any one seen ants at work? They have there colony that they have supply so they venture into danger every single day to support their growing population.They would leave scent trail to find what they need but sometime these are blocked by objects in their way.
So the hurriedly either dismantle it or find away around it but in the mean time the colony is busy trying to progress without food and necessities it would die out . We are abit like those ants if rearrange or remove these portal we hamper the wow as of whole.We need the portals to be alive in this world.
![:+1:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/+1.png?v=6" ":+1:")
And the fact of the matter is when I go to the car dealership to complain about the crap they sold me, the president of GM isnt coming down to meet with me personally.
Someone IS getting chewed out and if thats means its the middle man, then so be it. He doesnt have to be the car designer or the GM CEO to be getting an earful. And he can take my verbal displeasure to his superiors if thats where the story needs to be told.
Ion knows his position and he knows he’s going to take heat for any stupid decisions made. If he doesnt want that job then he SHOULD step down.
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As lead dev, or any team lead, that person bears the responsibility for the decisions made by those under them. The phrase “the buck stops here” comes to mind. You are right about kotick, in the sense that he is also responsible for the decisions for watcher (and those under him) and the leads of other games (and those under those leads) under the actiblizz banner.
Sure, middle management bear some responsibility…but they answer to the people above them. Ultimately, for wow, that’s watcher. And then, for actiblizz, that’s kotick.
If they aren’t properly managing their staff, that’s also on them.
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Exactly.
This ‘dont blame Ion’ crap is a joke.
HE is high enough on the totem that he IS going to be blamed, and should be.
If he were terribly opposed to the changes, he’d quit if it were going to tarnish his reputation.
Fact is he is as much to blame as anyone else above him is. End of story.
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And that’ s fine. I agree that Ion deserves to get an earful for the stupid decision that was made and especially for the way it was presented. Blaming him for everything and calling for his head, however, is pointless and detracts from the real issues at hand. It’s one thing to say, “You did something stupid , so please fix it.” And another to say, “You need to quit so that someone else can step in and fix your stupid decision.” The first statement has a shot at effecting actual change. The second statement is effectively going into the void because Ion has bills to pay and the company knows where the real blame lies. I’m pretty sure that Ion isn’t going anywhere anytime soon unless someone gives him a better job offer. Even if Ion leaves, the people behind these decisions will likely remain. I remember when Ghostcrawler was the source of all evil in WoW. Did anything improve after his departure? In my opinion, things only worsened when he left.
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No, not really.
I tossed a fit in the car dealership when they screwed me on my car then tried to rip me off even more over some repairs that were a direct result of THEIR incompetence, mostly the mechanics themselves.
No one sent the mechanic in for me to chew them out. The people who got reamed werent even involved directly in the problem.
Chewing them out was just fine. Blaming them for hiring incompetent mechanics was fine. If they dont want the job of hiring the right people and then taking the heat when those people screw up, then they need to get out of upper management.
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And since I know youre making more excuses currently…I already covered the other end of the argument
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You are making my point for me. Ion is the mechanic in this scenario. Were you calling for the mechanic to be fired? No. You demanded that they fix your car (and rightfully so). Kudos to you for sticking up for yourself and chewing them out. I’m solidly behind you if you want to chew Blizzard out over Portalgate. I just think it’s distracting to specifically call out Ion or Bobby for it. This was likely a team decision, and it’s going to take a team to fix it. Firing Ion isn’t going to fix anything.
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only in your own mind.
there are two possible options here
- Ion is on board with and agreed with the changes.
- Ion is NOT on board with and disagrees with the changes.
In option #1 he IS going to take blame for the changes. Doesnt matter if they were his ideas or not. He is complicit and SHOULD be blamed as much as anyone else involved.
Based on every bit of evidence around the web, he IS on board with the current direction of the game
With option #2 we would have to ask why he is so against whats going on yet DEFENDS it and would even allow HIS reputation and career in the long term to be damaged by all of this crap.
Sorry…#2 doesnt fit the evidence we see, so its easily dismissed as not being the case. Leaving #1 to be most likely the reality of it all, and Ion absolutely being to blame for his part in all of it.
He can prove me wrong at any time by DENOUNCING what is happening to this game.
IF Ion doesnt want to be the face of the company he should resign his post immediately.
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I won’t say that firing Ion will fix it, but Ion is high enough up the food chain to be a driving force behind the current design philosophy. And they need to change that design philosophy, because right now they’re too focused on maximum profits for minimum work, and this minimum viable product approach is ruining the game and the company’s reputation.
Though right now, this seems to be an industry wide mindset. It waits to be seen if the game companies will ultimately condition the players to accept paying full price for sub-par product, or if we’re on the brink of another gaming crash.
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Another gaming crash? Gaming has never, EVER made more money than it does in these recent years. It’s our own fault. We’re the ones paying for pay to win, loot boxes, and microtransactions
On that point right there, thats not really the point. Ive said he should RESIGN. I dont remember saying ‘fired’. Someone can quote me if my memory is that bad, Im sure.
Quitting is HIM saving face and keeping his career intact.
Fired is him being humiliated over decisions he doesnt necessarily control.
Im not stupid enough to think he acts in a vacuum. And Im also not naive enough to think he isnt complicit in every decision being made as to the direction the game is taking
edit…and AGAIN…if he cant handle being the face of the company he should absolutely resign and let someone else who CAN take the heat for their poor decisions do the job instead.
THAT is what upper management does.
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And companies are finally over-using those tactics enough to start seeing pushback from the consumer. How long do you think the companies relying on lootboxes are going to last, if consumers finally say “we’re done”, or countries start legislating against these sorts of microtransactions?
The crash of 1983 was largely the result of too many companies trying to cash in with sub-par games. Well, we’re right back at that point, but now the sub-par games are being propped up by lootboxes and microtransactions.
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I think his wife and children might beg to differ with you there. It’s easy to take the moral high ground when you have nothing to lose. He has bills to pay. Even if Ion was on board with and agreed with the changes, he hopefully knows better now and can use his position to make things right by reinstating portals. If he’s not on board and disagrees with the changes, we are providing him with a solid argument for backtracking on them (player demand). Either way, firing Ion isn’t going to help our case. Why are we even wasting time arguing about Ion?
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Im sorry. I dont care about his personal life. HE makes his own decisions about his career. If he cant handle the job, he needs to resign. Plain and simple.
Either way, firing Ion isn’t going to help our case.
Geezus christ…do you READ?
AGAIN… I dont think I EVER SAID FIRED in here. I said RESIGN.
THIS is why I have to resort to CAPS to make you folks PAY ATTENTION to what is SAID!
I SAID RESIGN.
You do know the difference between FIRED and RESIGN, correct?
And again…Ions own words show that he agrees and is on board with the changes. PLease stop wasting your time and mine trying to pretend that hes not.
there are two possible options here
- Ion is on board with and agreed with the changes.
- Ion is NOT on board with and disagrees with the changes.
In option #1 he IS going to take blame for the changes. Doesnt matter if they were his ideas or not. He is complicit and SHOULD be blamed as much as anyone else involved.
Based on every bit of evidence around the web, he IS on board with the current direction of the gameWith option #2 we would have to ask why he is so against whats going on yet DEFENDS it and would even allow HIS reputation and career in the long term to be damaged by all of this crap.
Sorry…#2 doesnt fit the evidence we see, so its easily dismissed as not being the case. Leaving #1 to be most likely the reality of it all, and Ion absolutely being to blame for his part in all of it.
He can prove me wrong at any time by DENOUNCING what is happening to this game.
IF Ion doesnt want to be the face of the company he should resign his post immediately.
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Yes. The difference is that if he resigns, he forfeits his health insurance, his right to claim unemployment, and any kind of severance package. I know it’s hard to care about those things when mommy and daddy have been paying your bills all your life, but food, shelter, and medical care are kind of a big deal. Regardless of how it happens, Ion’s departure from the company isn’t bringing our portals back.
Ion’s words show that he is a team player who will defend the team’s collective decision to the best of his ability. What goes on behind closed doors at the company and what is presented to the public are often very different. I hate to disillusion you, but that’s the real world. The only person who knows how Ion really feels is Ion. You may be right, and he may be firm believer that removing portals was best for the game, but we have no way of knowing for certain.
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Right, he gets all the blame, but it’s not like he’s the one making every single decision without any input from the other devs. So as long as the majority of the devs support these misguided attempts at controlling players, then these things will continue happening.
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Are you kidding me? ‘His wife and kids’? Please.
And YOU are the one wasting time, with all this odd moralizing: if Ion, or anyone for that matter, can’t do the job, then get someone who can!
These are corporations we’re talking about here, not charities.
Flips hair
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That’s a pretty good reason to get on the ball and fix this mess up, then.
Stopped reading, right there.
I don’t give a sewer rat’s whiskers what the inner workings are; OR their motivations, either. We are here to play a game and, for the most part, have absolutely no interest whatsoever in the company’s inner workings.
Not should we.
We PAY their salaries! We PAY to PLAY this game. We are the customers.
This game is broken.
Fix it.
THAT’S AN ORDER!
…or we will find another game.
Flips hair and enjoys a soothing sip of Peppermint tea
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Problem with this is he not a team player he is a dev.leader,leaders lead they don’t take the ball to the goal without a couch telling them how to play.It’s their play not the quarterback’s.So if this removal of portals was his idea then it’s his responsibility.
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