there was like a graph somewhere with the popularity of WoW and TBC actually was the best popularity expansion from all of the rest if I’m not mistaken. Or maybe it was Wolk and TBC was the second by popularity. But vanilla wasn’t the best of this game. You just imagining it wrongly.
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“the burning crusade classic” is somewhat oxymoronical
Hey…um Squig… your entitlement is showing. And we all know what opinions are like. So since we’re all giving opinions that no one else cares about - TBC was the pinnacle of the game’s balance. Cataclysm is where things go derailed imo.
Have a blessed day!
I believe TBC was 10.5 million, WotLK set the high point at 12 million.
10.5 to 12 million is more than “barely”, but it is also not the cavernous gulf of subs-difference between WotLK and the Cata Disaster.
Going from zero to 7million is a hell of a lot more impactful and difficult than 7 million to 10.
Also the rate of new sub’s gained starts to slow down real hard in TBC, and in wotl the rate was flat lining. TBC barely was good enough to beat out the amount of churn, and wrath was only able to maintain its already established player base. All other expansions after this lost more total players than gained.
TBC is a waste of time. I’d rather see classic +
If they do, don’t play it. Other people would love to have it and you don’t speak for them. Stay in Classic, so long as it’s separated. Let others enjoy what they enjoy.
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Actually, I propose 60-70 TBC Classic servers that we pay-transfer to after we’re bored with Classic.
So it went downhill even though subs kept increasing through WOTLK?
Stop it.
TBC was peak WOW.
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True, my “we” isn’t global.
I don’t think 60-70 only would work well because what some people want are the new races and their starting areas, or the alt-leveling experience, or the new professions which included 1-300 levels. Azeroth was still a BLAST to play through in TBC.
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Be gone Thot
P.S Paid faction change killed faction identity not TBC
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Wut?
no really?
TBC had major lore from WC2 and WC3.
But if you feel like they lost their identity I would like to know what you conflate to the cause…
How did they lose their identity?
At what Point did it hit you that “the horde isn’t the horde and alliance isn’t the alliance?”
you can say they lost it, and that it’s a “FACT” but without proper evidence you just sound like a crazy person complaining about something they don’t like.
I’ll admit, I hated Outland as a new place for content. The story was pretty bad and I still and will forever hate belfs. However, the bolster to classes, new boss mechanics, heroic dungeons, pain in the butt attunements, and arena seasons are what made me love TBC over Vanilla and every other xpac that came after.
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haha, yeah. “quit during cata” is a story repeated by many. Including me
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It isn’t that I don’t want a progression personally, what I really don’t want is to get invested in a character decide meh I need to reroll or make an alt cause I don’t really like this character, then have to play catchup to the server general level population. With that being said its no fault of blizzard wanting to turn classic experience into a progression, but what needs to happen is Blizzard should be clear on there intentions that Classic will in fact be a progression and not a locked server…
That would be ok with me, I just want to know what to expect as far as will I be constantly chasing the progression of the server, or will I have time to be able to character develop. The hard truth is this. if its a locked server people will undoubtedly get bored after 6 months of playing and this classic fun nostalgia will be gone.
I want to see new people with only the abilities they had in BC try to run Shattered Halls. Oh the carnage was glorious. “Yes! Beat him mercilessly! His skull is as thick as an ogre’s!” And see tanks get crushed by the door guards in Heroic Sethek. I had to help a few bears get their flight form by kiting one around the instance while the group tried to kill the other one. And the endurance test of Black Morass. “The time has come to shatter this clockwork universe forever. Let us not be slaves to the hourglass.” Such fond memories.
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True, but not my point. I was simply expounding on the number of subs.
This is moronic. TBC increased almost 50% over Classic. WotLK peaked, and THEN HELD ITS SUBS THROUGH TO THE END!!! Neither Vanilla, TBC, nor WotLK suffered huge subscription drop-offs months after the most recent content patch like later expacs did. Reaching 12 million subs and MAINTAINING it is an INCREDIBLE feat.
You want to advance your idiotic moronic agenda? Fine! But using subscription totals is not winning you any points. Like I said, I missed out on Vanilla, and started in TBC.I’m looking forward to experiencing this iteration of Vanilla. But in my opinion, based on my current experience, TBC was indeed the high point of WoW.
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Yes I did. Did research too (already knew it actually). In the grand scheme of things, they barely went up. Maybe you should do the research (14 mil???):
https ://static.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2015/08/wow-subscriptions-historical-2005-2015.png
In perspective, that’s pretty flat (looks like <10% increase probably?). Talking about increases as was clear in my post.
It’s a statement of opinion. If you’re talking sub numbers, then it’s false. But as a subjective viewpoint, if that’s what you believe that’s perfectly fine. I think Vanilla was peak WoW. Some people probably prefer MoP or even Legion. All are perfectly valid opinions.
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I intended to include the ability to start at 60 for new toons, but I didn’t say it. My bad.
The wall of no? Pardon my ignorance but what is that?