Why the hell do you think I’d care what you think? You’re trash, your ideals and opinions are trash, nobody cares.
Whos gonna clear Heroic 25 lich king if we leave and people like you are the only ones left tho
Aww someone is upsetti spaghetti that a feral is better than them. Must hurt.
Reductivism isn’t a good argument.
Sounds like projection. i killed brutalis 15 times 
in what universe are you better than any normal tbcc raider, you got stomped in the last phase <3
Muru atleast is a respectable wall, brutalis just means your tanks were trash
Yea and themajority wanted a cata world revamp and lfr and transmo. Whats the point of having 2 different wow games if they are the same design wise
Wouldnt it make more sense to have classic and retail separate. People that want instant puggable content and infinite power growth can play retail
RDF isn’t magically going to turn WotLK Classic into retail though. It’s not going to change the class design and add a bunch of grindy chore systems to the game that we have to do every week for borrowed power.
We’re now talking about a feature that existed during WotLK, not people asking for retail features in a game that never had it.
Saying “If you want it go play retail” makes as much sense as telling you “If you want a game without convenience, go play season of mastery”.
You realize people like you will be in cata asking for lfr using the same arguments and we will just have two retails in a years time.
Some people want classics ideology to be protected. Hence why some want classic plus rather than turning slowly into retail
i could care less if they add it back or not but at least limit it at “First” to server only, i still like being able to see names and instantly know if youre bad or not
That seems like a discussion for 2 years from now if they’re going to do Cataclysm Classic.
However if you’re gonna try to seriously argue that any bit of movement towards being more like retail just turns us into retail 2.0 then I have bad news for you because WotLK already has shifted things to being easier like retail.
I remember years ago when it was no changes, and we needed to preserve Classic WoW as it was all those years ago as a museum for people to play that version of the game. Classic+ was decried because it was said that nobody would ever be able to agree on exactly what changes needed to be made.
and they too went on about how classic+ would eventually just lead us down the path to becoming another retail.
Retail is the damned bogeyman around here. People just throw it around to claim we can’t do something or we have to do something “because it’d be like retail otherwise!”.
On the megaservers they could honestly just never let it be cross-realm.
Only the very dead servers would probably need that considered. The ones where people would struggle to run content without it, and at that point you’re not preserving a whole lot by not giving them RDF.
LFD has its pros and cons.
The pros
1- you can rattle off your heroic daily in maybe 30 minutes every day no problem.
2- you can farm/fish do daily quest while in the queue.
3- You can level alts entirely by dungeon farming 15-80. Some people like this style of leveling, i like being a tank and getting those instant queues
4-The random dungeon reward is better than the selected daily quest. If we get occulus less people will do it making groups harder tomake
5- you get to do dungeons that people don’t normally do due to traveling being a pain. For some people that’s great as it opens up the loot possibilities. Like ragefire being accessible for alliance and deadmines being easy to get to for lv15 hordes
The cons
1- It’s a anti-RPG element. There’s nothing RPG about instantly teleporting into a dungeon. Part of what makes the world a world is needing to travel to places. To some this may not seem like a big deal but if you remove all RPG elements you get retail wow. You get world scaling, dungeon teleporting, no hunter ammo, no talent trees, no friction on your journey to max level.
2- People won’t quest as much in the world, even though questing is faster in Wrath since dungeons didn’t have the bonus exp for completion reward baked into dungeons. There is a satchel and exp reward from random dungeon but that reward is big once then small all the times after that. I believe it was in Wod when they made dungeons give an additional layer of exp for killing the last boss.
3- If it’s cross-realm then you are constantly grouping with random people and have no incentive to talk to them. If someone is afk you can boot them and replace them immediately. someone d/cs too bad they get the boot by impatient players.
Without LFD you feel good about finding a strong group to dungeon with and doing multiple runs. with LFD you just get whatever group and if you’re lucky they chain queue forever.
Conclusion: I still want LFD, I dislike the feeling of commitment being in a group has without it. People who do 1 dungeon run suck, Unless it’s something long like ST or BRD going through the trouble to do SM library and being done in 10 minutes and then people leave just sucks. Which means I make it a point to not be the first person to bail.
Not really because the reasons LFR was added were directly the result of bad decisions made in Cata design. Not a general need for it.
what decisions
75% of my dungeon groups are pugs.
Pugs I host.
Pugs who I fill up with people instantly.
Try it sometime
No I tried it and it was awful. I will wait till RDF.
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Yes you have. You just don’t process those comments. I’m someone who hates RDF. I don’t like the idea of playing my games through a menu. I like the system. Find a group that fits what you need, reach out and start a conversation.
So if your car doesn’t start the first time you use your key, you just throw your hands up and give up?
What about dating? One decline and your done?
As a casual player the RDF system was/will be again (hopefully!) a God-send. I appreciate there are different playstyles so if RDF isn’t your thing then don’t use it.
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The LFG Tool is a menu…
RDF is a wrath feature. If you don’t like wrath features, maybe wrath is not for you. Might I suggest era?